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BillCahill
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 4:20pm \| IP Logged

While not charting high enough to make the Top 40 on any chart, I just found a DJ copy which says New Time 3:25. Some of you may have this DJ edit, I just bring it up as I never knew it existed. I didn't time it but it is shorter than the usual version. I just thought I'd share with the group.

Edited by BillCahill on 18 October 2007 at 4:21pm

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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 4:40pm \| IP Logged

Any idea if the 4:55 version can be edited to match the 'new time'?

Edited by eriejwg on 18 October 2007 at 4:41pm

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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:18pm \| IP Logged

I'm pretty sure it can.. I will compare them.

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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:51pm \| IP Logged

If you rip the version from the Ultimate Joe Cocker CD (and I'm assuming any CD source of the song) you only need to make one edit, around 2:28.6 right after the second girl section, "Do you need anybody" cut to the same place at 3:57.6 and you got it. Then just fade to 3:25 (length on the DJ 45 is accurate)

So you can make this edit from CD versions.

Guess what? I tried to match up the DJ copy with the A&M Forget Me Not reissue 45.. it says 4:55 on it.. WRONG.. it's THIS 3:25 version. So if you have the Forget Me Not reissue 45 you may already have this edit.

Bill

Edited by BillCahill on 19 October 2007 at 5:53pm

eriejwg
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:33pm \| IP Logged

Thanks, Bill! Edit points were simple and it makes this song a little more bearable at 3:25!

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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:49pm \| IP Logged

Isn't there a pitch difference between the commercial 45 and LP?

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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:24pm \| IP Logged

Very slight difference in pitch. My turntable is very accurate but it wasn't worth noting.

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Posted: 24 October 2023 at 11:05am \| IP Logged

So from what I understand there is the following:

A 3:25 mono promo edit.
A 4:14 LP version in stereo from 1968
A 5:12 longer version which appears on numerous comps

Does anyone know what to call the 5:12 version?

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