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eriejwg MusicFan
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Curiosity has gotten me again. What are the differences between the 3:43 stock 45 and the 2:59 DJ edit?
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Hykker MusicFan
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I'm told there are parts in the dj edit that don't exist elsewhere, but to me it just sounds like a couple edits in the bridge and an early fade.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Spent some time last night recreating this edit. It can be done. Slowed the pitch of the stereo version down about 3%, there were 3 edits as I recall and an early fade.
Thanks to Steve for the original promo edit I could use as my guideline.
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Hykker MusicFan
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I forget who it was that told me that it wasn't possible to re-create the edit from the album version. I did one a few years ago that, while it may not be exactly the same, is virtually indistinguishable from the promo edit (except I didn't fade it quite as fast).
This song just begs to be re-issued commercially with the stereo promo edit. The bridge on the album version is way too long IMHO, and if you find the commercial single version it seems to always be mono.
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vanmeter MusicFan
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I've never heard the promo edit. Does it tighten up the song pretty well?
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MPH711 MusicFan
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Isn't the DJ edit already on one of the Dick Bartley CD's?
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sriv94 MusicFan
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MPH711 wrote:
Isn't the DJ edit already on one of the Dick Bartley CD's? |
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If I'm not mistaken, it's the commercial 45 that's on the Bartley CD.
Edited by sriv94 on 03 April 2008 at 6:58am
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eriejwg MusicFan
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MPH711 wrote:
Isn't the DJ edit already on one of the Dick Bartley CD's? |
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Not according to the database.
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Can someone provide me with a copy of the mono DJ edit?
Thanks to John Gallagher for providing me with his stereo dj edit version.
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 03 April 2008 at 11:20pm
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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My copy of the out-of-print Vol. 3 Bartley CD just arrived, and it contains the commercial 45 version, not the DJ 45 edit. Actual time is 3:44.
UPDATE: I should add that I never compared the Bartley track to the actual 45, so if they aren't the same, I apologize for any confusion. I should have just said that the track was not the DJ 45 edit.
Edited by Yah Shure on 03 April 2012 at 8:19pm
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edtop40 MusicFan
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thanks to yah shure the vinyl 45 and the bartley cd version
are identical except for the mono/stereo differences.....is
there any reason why this cd isn't listed in the db?.....
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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I do see the Varese label On The Radio disc listed under Steam. The current note says it is an unsuccessful attempt at creating the 45 version.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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is THAT the bartly cd?...it sounds like the vinyl 45 to
me.....pat, can you review that cd again versus the vinyl
and amend the entry if necessary.......thx
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Ed, the stereo LP version cannot be used to create the 45 edit. The most obvious difference is at the part where the drum solo begins. On the stereo LP version, the music cuts out sooner than the 45. There may be other differences, too.
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Hykker wrote:
I'm told there are parts in the dj edit that don't exist elsewhere, but to me it just sounds like a couple edits in the bridge and an early fade. |
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You are correct. There are three edits and an early fade.
The edit points on the actual DJ 45 occur at 1:48, 1:50, and 2:15.
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Yah Shure wrote:
My copy of the out-of-print Vol. 3 Bartley CD just arrived, and it contains the commercial 45 version, not the DJ 45 edit. Actual time is 3:44.
UPDATE: I should add that I never compared the Bartley track to the actual 45, so if they aren't the same, I apologize for any confusion. I should have just said that the track was not the DJ 45 edit. |
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I should have also clarified that I have not heard the Bartley CD, so I do not know if they used a new stereo mix that matches the 45 or if they simply edited the LP version. According to Pat's database, it is the latter, which cannot be properly done because of the music part right before the drums. Also, the stereo version has more reverb than the mono, if I recall correctly.
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Fetta MusicFan
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I was going through some cds in my storage bin yesterday and came across an import Steam CD called "Na Na Hey Hey" Steam with Garrett Scott that I must have picked up years ago that I had forgotten about. Here is the link to the CD on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/NA-HEY-Steam-Garrett-Scott/dp/B000SI73 JU/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333924083&sr=1-2
Anyway, there are 3 versions of "Na Na Hey Hey" on this CD. I assume these versions are:
1) LP Stereo version
2) 45 Stereo version
3) 45 Mono version
I am not sure of the source of these tracks but if anyone is interested, I can send a wav file to all or any of the 3 for comparison since the "true" 45 mix doesn't seem to appear on any domestic CD.
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Fetta, the Amazon link didn't work for me but I found it via a search of the site... is the Na Na Hey Hey soundalike "What I'm Saying Is True" on that cd in mono or stereo (or rechanneled)?
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 08 April 2012 at 4:17pm
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Fetta MusicFan
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Sounds to me like it is mono.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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aaron, i just re-listened to the intro on the bartley cd
versus the vinyl 45 and they sound the same to me.....can
anyone point to the differences between the vinyl 45 and
the bartley cd version so i can be sure it IS different,
because they sound the same to me...
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