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abagon MusicFan
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Twilight Zone by GOLDEN EARRING: commercial copies all run (4:45) on the DB.
An US commercial copy that I possess is the actual time (4:05) (stated on the label(4:44))
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Since it's now been established that a short commercial 45 version of Golden Earring's "Twilight Zone" exists, all existing "45 version" comments in the database for this song really should be revised to read: "long 45 version".
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Hykker MusicFan
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What's the difference between the two?
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Indy500 MusicFan
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Here is that short version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msOwM2lD6z0
An edit from 2:40 of the single version to 3:13. Editing on the 4th beat seemed to work best. Then a fade of 17 seconds or so to 3:59.
It does not appear this version is available on CD.
Which one got the most airplay?
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Indy500 wrote:
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The commercial 45 I have (4:44 listed, 4:45 actual) is the file copy KDWB used to dub the song to cart. It's a styrene Bestway pressing (deadwax: TT - 103 - 82 NP 6070 BW [plus some indecipherable initials] along with the oval EDP logo.)
The fonts and layout on the label shown in the YouTube clip indicate a PRC pressing (assuming, of course, it was the actual source of the audio.) Since at least one independent plant (Bestway) was contracted out for this job, this might be a case of one plant mistakenly using the DJ stamper for some stock copies. Anybody with the shorter stock 45 want to chime in with pressing details?
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Hykker MusicFan
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Indy500 wrote:
Which one got the most airplay?
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We didn't play the song where I worked in early '83 (the PD wasn't comfortable with the line "bullet hits the bone"), of the CHRs in Boston only WHTT played it and they played the 4:44 version.
I didn't think to ask if I could have the promo since I already had a stock copy (though I would have had I known there was an edit...promo edits are one of my collecting interests).
Edited by Hykker on 01 December 2012 at 11:01am
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abagon MusicFan
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I don't remember why I have provided the wrong actual running time on the first post in 2008.
The actual running time is (3:59),which is the same as the You Tube link by Indy 500.
Pat, the indicated time (4:05) on the db is incorrect. Modify it, please!
My commercial 45 info is below.
LONG 45: dedwax # (82 NP 6070 BW (plus some indecipherable initials.) This is identical to the Yah Shure's number.
The factory number "19" on the record label.
SHORT 45 deadwax # (82NP 6070 - SHORT PRC - C1(or Cl, CI) - (some indecipherable initials))
The factory number "72" on the record label.
--abagon
Edited by abagon on 01 December 2012 at 11:03pm
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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"Twilight Zone" didn't even crack the Top 30 on the R&R national airplay chart, so it looks like many stations didn't play it.
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That's really strange - I heard "Twilight Zone" all the time in Cleveland. It was one of my favorites at the time.
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played a lot on radio in NY as well--also got heavy MTV rotation.
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Sounds like the promo edit is also faster than the stock
edit (if the YouTube link is any indication).
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Hykker MusicFan
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Thanks for the heads-up, I was able to track down a promo
copy of this. It almost sounds like there are 2 edits in
the short version: the instrumental bridge being shortened
and another somewhat rough-sounding edit about :25 before
that.
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When comparing the promo edit to the stock 45 version, the section from 2:40 to 3:13 is removed, and the promo fades sooner. As Doug indicates, the promo runs a little faster, too.
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http://burningtheground.net/category/golden-earring/
Link to a great download of the US promo.
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Paul Haney wrote:
"Twilight Zone" didn't even crack the Top 30 on the R&R
national airplay chart, so it looks like many stations didn't play it. |
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According to the Feb 18, 1983 edition of R&R mag, 86 stations were playing it.
It just never made it past "New And Active". Possibly if it was a 40 position
chart-as it later became-itwould have charted.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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The AOR i worked at in West Virginia in 1983 played this
song, though I don't remember how long.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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It doesn't get as many spins as Radar Love, but I do
hear the song on Classic Rock stations locally these
days.
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eriejwg wrote:
The AOR i worked at in West Virginia in 1983 played this song, though I don't remember how long. |
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I'd be surprised if it wasn't the LP version.
In Chicago, WLS-AM played the long 45 during the day and the LP version at night. WLS-FM played the LP version in all dayparts except
mornings (simulcast with the AM). TTBOMR, WBBM-FM played the long 45.
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radiofan16 wrote:
Paul Haney wrote:
"Twilight Zone" didn't even crack the Top 30 on the R&R
national airplay chart, so it looks like many stations didn't play it. |
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According to the Feb 18, 1983 edition of R&R mag, 86 stations were playing it.
It just never made it past "New And Active". Possibly if it was a 40 position
chart-as it later became-itwould have charted. |
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Most likely it would've cracked the R&R Top 40, had the chart gone that far down, likely stalling somewhere around #35 or so.
I remember lots of airplay on the local rock stations and just heard it a handful of times on the Top 40 stations. The fact that it hit #1 on Billboard's Rock Tracks chart confirms that it was a big rock hit, not so much Top 40.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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sriv94 wrote:
[QUOTE=eriejwg] The AOR i worked at in
West Virginia in 1983 played this song, though I don't
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I'd be surprised if it wasn't the LP version.
Yes, I was referring to the LP version, not the short
version.
Edited by eriejwg on 05 April 2017 at 10:09am
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