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jimct MusicFan
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My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:29), but an actual time of (3:35).
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Hykker MusicFan
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There were 2 different versions of this one. I don't have my copy handy, but IIRC it runs a good minute + longer.
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TimNeely MusicFan
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My stock 45 has a listed time of (5:35). There's no question the length is in that ballpark.
I have a white-label promo 45 that matches jimct's timing.
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jimct MusicFan
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Pat, I have just acquired a promo 45 for this song that includes a version that you do not have noted in your current database comment for this song. The shorter stereo side has the same listed (3:29), actual (3:35) timing info I initailly reported for my commercial 45. But the longer stereo side of my promo 45 has both a listed & actual (5:35) version, which is omitted from your existing DJ 45 timings.
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Hykker MusicFan
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I just checked my promo copy and it agrees with Jim's commercial copy (and the short version of his promo)...mono/stereo same timing. This version has a :25 intro. I seem to recall that when the song was current, playing a slightly longer version (but not as long as 5:35) with a cold intro.
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torcan MusicFan
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I just acquired a US commercial 45 (with the original picture sleeve) for this title. The time is 5:35, and it states "long version" on the label.
I honestly don't remember hearing George's version at all on pop radio back when this was on the charts, but he does a pretty good job with it.
Not having heard the shorter version, can anybody tell me what's removed from the longer version to make the short version? I assume most of the second verse and chorus is because it's just a repeat of some of the first, but is the ending in tact?
Thanks :)
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does anyone's 5:33 cd version have a glitch at the 2:30 mark?
in addition my vinyl 45 runs only 5:33
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boynamedfoo MusicFan
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And yes Ed, my 5:33 version does have the glitch.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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I read that there was a 4:18 promo of this.
Does anyone know where the edit points are, or have a
dub?
Andy
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All of the short 45 versions in the database run 3:32 and
Jim's 45 ran 3:35. Is the reason for the 3:32 versions
running shorter a pitch issue?
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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I'm still looking to see if anyone has ever heard the 4:18
promo edit and can comment.
Thanks!
Andy
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Andy:
I have the answer for you.
The shortest and longest versions (running 3:35 and 5:35)
both start off with a 23 second piano intro and end cold.
The promo version with the 4:18 listed time has the cold
intro mentioned above (which means no long piano intro so
first thing you hear is George's vocals). It then fades at
the end.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Thank you, Santi!
Now I'm curious if this edit is identical to the version
you let me listen to on the 'Super Bad On Celuloid' CD or
if the CD's an approximation.
Do you, or anyone else out there actually own that 4:18
promo vinyl? It must be extremely rare!
Andy
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There are two different promo pressings with the 4:18 version, and there are multiple copies for sale on Discogs. I'll check to see if I already have one. If not, I'll order a copy.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Thanks Aaron and Santi!
The reason why I'm so curious is twofold:
1) I've always loved George Benson's original version of
the future Whitney Houston classic (I only heard the 3:35
edit on the radio, but I did eventually purchase the 5:35
full-length version).
2) The version on 'Super Bad On Celuloid' runs a little
longer than 4:18 and I'm not too crazy about the way it
starts and the way it fades out so I'm just wondering if
it's totally authentic. Assuming it is authentic, I'm
surprised Arista in the latter '70s would release to
radio this incomplete-sounding version.
Does anyone know if this was released later than the
other long/short promo as a reservice, or if it was
released reasonably contemporaneously with the long/short
promo?
Andy
Edited by AndrewChouffi on 20 December 2021 at 10:32am
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I do have a copy of the 4:18 listed promo, which is mono/stereo. The actual run time of the stereo side is 4:23. This does a quick fade in just before the first vocal, and then does a rather quick fade out at the end.
Edited by aaronk on 21 December 2021 at 3:02pm
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Great info Aaron. Thanks again everyone.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Thanks for reporting, Aaron!
Andy
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