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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 11:17pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

I finally finish up a VERY active 1978, post-wise, with a song not found in the database, but one that peaked at #39 in Billboard in 4/78. FYI, my commercial 45, which was released from their "Alive II" LP, has both a listed and actual time of (3:04). However, the only CD I know of that features this live take, my CD copy of "Alive II", contains a version of "Rocket Ride" with both a listed and actual time of (4:07). So, this version was obviously edited, faded, or both, to shave off a total of (1:03), to create the 45 version. I will soon be shooting out both versions to either Aaron or Todd, for their evaluation, and will be reporting back later with their expert findings.

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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 2:58pm | IP Logged Quote bwolfe

Can someone explain the differences between Cash Box and Billboard when it comes to how their charts were put
together?
Maybe this isn't the right location for such a question,
but what was the difference?

Thanks to all for your incredible attention to detail!!

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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 8:09pm | IP Logged Quote BillCahill

My impression was that Cashbox was more sales oriented, while the 45 rpm existed.
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Posted: 26 June 2011 at 7:26pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

was it ever determined if the 3:04 45 version can be edited down from the 4:07 cd/lp version?

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Posted: 13 April 2012 at 4:12pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Bumping this up to see if Jim, Aaron or Todd can answer Ed's question. I'm wondering the same myself. Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 14 April 2012 at 12:49am | IP Logged Quote jimct

I'm almost positive I supplied the vinyl 45 audio to Todd (and maybe to
Aaron as well.) I'm sure this one just got "lost in the sauce" of many ongoing
song analysis projects at one time. Todd, whenever time allows, could you
check to make sure that I did indeed get that 45 dub to you? Thanks!
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Posted: 14 April 2012 at 7:16am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Jim, I do have a 45 dub, but I don't have the Alive II CD to create the edit. It can be done, though. There are 2 edits and an early fade.

Referencing the LP version, the following sections are removed:

- instrumental section from 1:11 to 1:17 (edit is on the 4th count in the measure)
- instrumental section from 2:06 to 2:12 (edit is on the first count in the measure)
- fade starts at 3:07 and goes to 3:18

To create the edit, work backwards by doing the fade first, then edit out 2:06 to 2:12, and finally edit out 1:11 to 1:17. The result will be the 45 version.

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Posted: 14 April 2012 at 9:56am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

although the song is from an album titled "alive II" the
song isn't a live recording, correct?....my 45 sounds like
a studio recording....no audience applause evident...



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Posted: 14 April 2012 at 10:19am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To 'edtop40':

Right. It's a studio recording to have a contemporaneous single for radio promotion.

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Posted: 15 April 2012 at 4:13pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

thanks to aaron the vinyl 45 can be edited down from the
'alive II' cd and runs 3:04.....thanks aaron for re-
creating the edit.....THANKS...

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Posted: 16 April 2012 at 5:56am | IP Logged Quote bwolfe

Just heard that risque little number on American Top 40 this weekend. Hadn't heard it in years. Thanks for the edit info.

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