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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 8:40pm \| IP Logged

We all know how commercial and promo singles often have incorrect run times printed on their labels or sleeves. Pat has done a fantastic job documenting discrepencies between printed and actual run times for many, many singles in Top 40 Music on Compact Disc, but there are still some out there not yet accounted for. Therefore, I thought we could start a thread where readers can post differences they encounter between actual and printed single run times that aren't mentioned in the 10th edition. We can also open this up to LP run times as well. Here are a few to get started:

L.A. Guns - The Ballad of Jayne: DJ CD copies of this single run (4:14) and (4:32), not (3:59) and (4:10) as stated on the label.

Siouxsie & The Banshees - Kiss Them for Me: DJ CD copies of this single state a run time of (4:20) on the label, but actually runs (4:27).

Jermaine Stewart - Say It Again: Commercial 45 copies run (4:08), not (3:59) as stated on the label.

Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart: Commercial 45 copies run (4:37), not (4:48) as stated on the label.

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 6:31am \| IP Logged

Does anyone have the commercial single of "Ballad Of Jayne" to verify the running time since Whitburn lists the running time as (3:59) and I suspect that just like the dj copies, the commercial copy incorrectly states the time.

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:18pm \| IP Logged

Pat:

A vendor at www.gemm.com confirms that the "Ballad of Jayne" cassette single has a printed run time of 3:59 on the label.

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:34pm \| IP Logged

good one...........my commercial cassingle states on the cassingle face that the run time is 3:59, but it actually runs 4:15........no run time listed on the cardboard sleeve........

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:47pm \| IP Logged

daryl hall/john oates with david ruffin & eddie kendricks song "a nite at the apollo live! the way you do the things you do/my girl" issued in 1985 on RCA 14178 actually runs 4:36 while the 45's face states the run time as 4:13

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:59pm \| IP Logged

Whitney's "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" had a printed run time of something like 3:35, when it was in actually the full-length four-minute-plus album version.

MJ's "Human Nature" 45 had a printed run time of 4:05, like the LP version, when it actually ran 3:46. "Thriller" I think listed 3:56 and ran 4:07.

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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 1:53am \| IP Logged

I just came across some interesting info about Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart. Although Pat's book lists the song on Dream Of The Blue Turtles as running (4:37), the track listing on allmusic.com states (4:48), the printed run time on the 45.

Another web site I visited has "Original 4:48" and "Hugh Padgham remix 4:36." The same site states that this remix version (with the same time as the actual run time of the 45) is on Fields Of Gold US pressing.

Pat's book does not list a version, but I'm wondering if the LP and 45 are different, and if we actually have the 45 version on Fields Of Gold.

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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 6:23am \| IP Logged

My vinyl 45 dj copy of "Fortress Around Your Heart" states a running time of 4:48 but actually runs 4:38 and sync's up perfectly with the version that appears on the cd "Dream Of The Blue Turtles". The cd appearances on "Fields Of Gold" and "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" sound the same to me so I don't think there is a 45 version of this song.

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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 11:12am \| IP Logged

Could there be two pressings of Dream Of The Blue Turtles, with one having the 4:48 version? I'll see if I can locate my cassette tape of the album to see what's on there. Also, I believe my friend has a copy of one of the original pressings of the CD, so I'll see what's on his disc.

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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 10:36pm \| IP Logged

Donna Allen - Serious: Actual 45 time is (3:46), not (3:40) as stated on the record label.

Herb Alpert - Making Love in the Rain: Actual 45 time is (4:06), not (3:50) as stated on the record label.

Eric Carmen - Sunrise: Actual 45 time is (3:38), not (3:29) as stated on the record label.

Gavin Christopher - One Step Closer to You: Actual 45 time is (4:13), not (3:58) as stated on the record label.

Christopher Cross - No Time for Talk: Actual 45 time is (3:56), not (4:22) as stated on the record label.

Eagles - Best of My Love: Actual 45 time is (3:29), not (3:25) as stated on the record label.

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Hall & Oates - Everything Your Heart Desires: Actual 45 time is (4:21), not (4:26) as stated on the label.

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Posted: 29 August 2005 at 5:09pm \| IP Logged

bonnie tyler "total eclipse of the heart"
45 label face states run time as 4:29--------actual run time of the 45 is 5:31

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 8:14am \| IP Logged

Kenny Loggins "Vox Humana"----45 label states run time as 3:49 but actually runs 4:08

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 8:34am \| IP Logged

kenny loggins "footloose" actually runs 3:41 while the 45's face states the run time as 3:46

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:18am \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

kenny loggins "footloose" actually runs 3:41 while the 45's face states the run time as 3:46

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The LP version/length of "Footloose" is 3:46. Is there an edit on the 45 causing it to run 3:41, or does the 45 simply have a faster pitch than the LP? The LP ends cold so I don't imagine the 45 could be an early fade of the LP.

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:33am \| IP Logged

i just listened to the 45 side by side to the cd version from the soundtrack and i don't hear any edit........at what time mark do you think it is????

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:49am \| IP Logged

dave loggins "please come to boston"--------45 states run time as 3:57 but actually runs 4:07

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 10:17am \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

i just listened to the 45 side by side to the cd version from the soundtrack and i don't hear any edit........at what time mark do you think it is????

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I don't have a copy of the 45, so I don't know if there is an edit. I'm just trying to speculate what's causing the :05 difference between the 45, which you report runs 3:41, and the soundtrack CD which runs 3:46? If you're not hearing an edit, then could it be that "Footloose" runs at a faster pitch on the commercial 45 than it does on the CD/LP?

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 12:44pm \| IP Logged

i'll review it more closely, now........

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Posted: 31 August 2005 at 12:54pm \| IP Logged

just listened to the song "footloose" again.......the song runs 3:41 while the label states the run time as 3:46.........i don't know why all the cd versions listed in his book say the run time is 3:46..........maybe just a pause for the next next song which gets counted toward's footloose's run time..........puzzles!!!!!!!!!

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