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abagon MusicFan
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Posted: 19 May 2008 at 7:39am | IP Logged
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KENNY G -"Songbird"
I have two kinds of the "Songbird" commercial 45 (ARISTA AS1-9588).
(1)/The actual running time 3:36 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SAS-SP2
(2)/The actual running time 5:00 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SA-PW1
Please look at the following scan images.
(1)3:36
(2)5:00
First time I purchased (1). However it was very noisy record with scratches. And I imported again reluctantly from the other online store. Fortunately, I got (2). "Turn the potential disaster to my advantage"
Edited by abagon on 19 May 2008 at 7:40am
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MCT1 MusicFan
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Posted: 19 May 2008 at 10:11am | IP Logged
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FWIW, from the typeface differences, it looks like these may have come from different pressing plants. In a previous discussion about Aretha Franklin's "Freeway of Love", it was suggested that 45s with labels that look like #1 may have been pressed by RCA, those with #2 by Specialty (which by this time was owned by Warner Music, but still also did pressing work for outside clients). #1 strikes me as more "typical Arista typeface" from this era, while #2 certainly resembles the typeface used by Specialty for other labels they pressed for.
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abagon MusicFan
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Posted: 20 May 2008 at 12:17am | IP Logged
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MCT1: Thank you. Your information is beneficial for me very much.
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torcan MusicFan
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This seems to be another case of multiple pressings of this 45: I've seen on e-bay that there's also a pressing that carries a 4:51 timing, on Arista 9588, and there's also a 5:00 timing on Arista 9516.
I have a promo that has a 5:00 timing, but I can't play it because it's off-center. I also have a commercial copy of the one pictured above that carries a 3:29 timing. Don't know if there ever was a promo that listed either 3:29 or 4:51.
FWIW, the Canadian 45 of this title carried the full 5:00.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:24pm | IP Logged
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Does anyone know what the (3:59) version is on the "Greatest Hits" CD? I presume it's a "neither" or "faded early," but the database doesn't have a note next to it. "Ultimate" runs (3:54), which also doesn't have a note next to it.
Edited by aaronk on 13 November 2010 at 11:25pm
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abagon MusicFan
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Posted: 14 November 2010 at 11:40am | IP Logged
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Aaron, The short 45 is an early fade of the Greatest Hits CD. Unfortunately, my GH CD is German pressing. But it runs (3:59). Also, I think that the short 45 is an edit of the full length version.
--abagon
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aaronk Admin Group
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Thanks to abagon, I was able to hear the actual short vinyl 45 version. He is absolutely correct that "Greatest Hits" is the "45 version but :23 longer." This should probably be noted in the database.
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Fetta MusicFan
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just wanted to push up this thread as I am working on Kenny G and the above has not yet been updated in the DB.
-Jeff
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abagon MusicFan
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 8:33am | IP Logged
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Although the info was already updated. The long 45 is the same as the LP. The short 45 is the edited version of the LP or the long 45. I think that the "short 45 length but :22 longer" comment for Greatest Hits CD is not appropriate.
--abagon
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Abagon you stated above that the short 45 version is just an early fade of the LP appearance so why do you feel the comment "short 45 length but :22 longer" is not appropriate?
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abagon MusicFan
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 10:12am | IP Logged
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Kenny G's saxophone performance starts at :07 on the short 45 also on my Greatest Hits CD, meanwhile it starts at :14 on the long 45. The short 45 is not just an early fade of the LP. So I feel that short 45 version but :22 longer" comment needs.
--abagon
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