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Well, in the last 3 weeks, been ripped off 3 times. Records/CDs bought and paid for never arrived, sellers not responding to emails etc. Very frustrating.
If only the stupid record companies would issue 45 versions in the first place my mission to get the right versions wouldn't be so unsuccessful as its been lately...
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I've been fortunate in ordering 45's on places like Ebay. At least they've arrived, if not always in quite the condition I was hoping for. Just a few weeks ago, I ordered an 'unplayed' record from Deadwax directly [also sells on Ebay] and was perplexed--a Dunhill pressing of Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf with no "highs". It's as if you turned down the treble on your stereo. I've had no luck in getting any reply from Deadwax to explain why this "unplayed" mint-near mint 45 would be playing in this weird condition.
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ebay really sucks now.....i've had nothing but problems will buyers not paying.....ebay used to be good years ago, but not anymore...
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jcr102: All mono 45 copies I've ever heard of Magic Carpet Ride sound muddy and crappy like that. It's hard to believe, but it was mastered that way. If anybody knows where the mono version sounds good let us know! Even the Dick Bartley CD that has the mono version had to use equalization it to make it less muddy.
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jcr102 wrote:
| I've been fortunate in ordering 45's on places like Ebay. At least they've arrived, if not always in quite the condition I was hoping for. Just a few weeks ago, I ordered an 'unplayed' record from Deadwax directly [also sells on Ebay] and was perplexed--a Dunhill pressing of Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf with no "highs". It's as if you turned down the treble on your stereo. I've had no luck in getting any reply from Deadwax to explain why this "unplayed" mint-near mint 45 would be playing in this weird condition. |
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Bill Cahill is right, ALL Dunhill 45s of Magic Carpet Ride sound like that. Our station tried several different singles at the time and I remember the styrene pressings (from Monarch in Los Angeles) had a slightly better high end than the vinyl discs from other pressing plants (and the vinyls were noisy from uisng cheap materials).
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I'm currently in the process of getting my money back from paypal over a $2 item that the seller never sent to me and apparently has no intentions of sending to me. how sad that it had to come to this. Also recently i sent back an item that was not in the condition described, the seller offered a full refund and then never sent it. I had to go through paypal to get my money back that way too. Only two times ive had to in the last 5 years.....really annoying....
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Wow...I didn't realize a 45 could be THAT bad. When the record was out, I had the Canadian RCA single of that song and it was nothing like that. If anything, it was grainy-sounding, pretty much the way the Dick Bartley rip of the 45 sounds. I've only recently heard some U-S Dunhill pressings [buying a few on the internet] and they're not great, but they're nothing like the mud on this record.
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Yeah, not all Dunhill pressings sound muddy, but it's rare that you come across a copy pressed on quality vinyl. "Magic Carpet Ride" just happens to be very muddy AND pressed on lousy vinyl.
John, I feel your frustration about eBay. The quality has stedily declined. There are some other great sites avaiable that are non-auction, fixed-price listings. One gem that has an ever-growing inventory is discogs.com. The only downside is that it relies on users to input missing release data, which needs to be done before anyone can sell a particular record. Adding a listing is not too difficult, though, if the seller has one to list. It's actually easier than eBay and fees are only charged after your record/CD sells.
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eriejwg wrote:
| Well, in the last 3 weeks, been ripped off 3 times. Records/CDs bought and paid for never arrived, sellers not responding to emails etc. Very frustrating. |
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By the way, I had a run in with a UK seller who sold me a "rare promo CD" that turned out to be a bootleg. He took me for more than $75, but offered a refund if I shipped it back. Of course he never refunded me. Paypal was even less helpful than the seller. After waiting for TWO MONTHS for Paypal to settle the dispute that I filed against him, they essentially did nothing and closed my case without warning, stating that were unable to trace the package I returned to him. Does anyone know how I'm supposed to obtain a tracking number that traces a package from the US to the UK???
In regards to selling on eBay, I've had a few people not pay, but I've always been able to recover my selling fees and relist the item. More of a hassle than it is a money issue.
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I'm really lucky -- I've only been totally ripped off once on Ebay. A seller on the east coast who had been on Ebay only three months, but had perfect feedback. I was suspicious when the ad said, "money orders or cash only, no PayPal or checks," but, like I said, he had perfect feedback.
Several weeks passed, and the item didn't come. I emailed him, and he assured me he'd sent it. Then he started to get negative feedback from other users saying they hadn't received their items. Then he abruptly closed his own account and wouldn't answer my emails.
Anyway, I did end up getting about $50 of the $75 back from Ebay after I filed a claim (they charge a fee to refund the money, and also will not refund the first $25.00). Needless to say, I will never do the "cash or money order only" thing again. That's a HUGE red flag.
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Do they still manufacture a lot of 7-inch singles in the US? They cleared right out in Canada in 1990. I have obtained about twenty or so of them in the 1990s but they were all US imports.
And this forum is supposed to be about this music on CD....lol! (I'm sorry - but I'm of the opinion that lasers are for eye surgery and CDs themselves are best put to best use when mistaken for an ashtray or a frisbee....lol!)
I'm just kidding, I just like being a smart-ass, but it's all in fun. But I'll always root for the turntable.
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One thing I'd like to add to this discussion... Beware of any rare and out-of-print CDs you may find on eBay that are in factory sealed condition, especially oldies titles. I've been burned on a handful of such titles over the past couple of years where these CDs turn out nothing more than pirated CD-R copies and the CD booklet and artwork are cheap laser printed photocopies of the official CD release.
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Jody Thornton wrote:
Do they still manufacture a lot of 7-inch singles in the US? They cleared right out in Canada in 1990. I have obtained about twenty or so of them in the 1990s but they were all US imports.
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In a word...no. You may notice I'm in Canada (Toronto actually), but through Billboard magazine (who always listed the configuration availability - and was right 90% of the time) and a contact who owns his own record store in upstate New York, I've followed closely the release of vinyl singles since 1990.
Most labels released bigger hits, or "name" artists for the first three-quarters of the '90s (sometimes it was hit and miss), but by the late '90s never 45s started dwindling. The last four years there have been hardly any from the major labels at all. Just a few Kelly Clarkson and Taylor Swift singles is about it. The latest Madonna and Mariah Carey songs (for examples) were never on 45s.
Just a quick note about Canada: unfortunately Judy's right. By summer 1990, there were no more new 45s being released in Canada. The last one I remember seeing was New Kids on the Block "Tonight". But at least it had a picture sleeve! MCA in Canada actually stopped in late 1989. The others during the first few months of 1990.
Cassette singles never really caught on here (and we didn't even have them until mid-89), and CD singles made a brief resurgance for a few years earlier this decade, but they're gone in favor of digital downloads.
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Bill Cahill wrote:
| jcr102: All mono 45 copies I've ever heard of Magic Carpet Ride sound muddy and crappy like that. It's hard to believe, but it was mastered that way. If anybody knows where the mono version sounds good let us know! Even the Dick Bartley CD that has the mono version had to use equalization it to make it less muddy. |
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Well, hate to say it, but I once made a better needle drop of the 45 than what appears on the Dick Bartley CD. The 45 does pack a lot of bass. I wish I hadn't accidentally deleted it a few years ago.
But, I have three copies of that 45, and all of them sound awful. Perhaps the 45 was cut from a bad tape copy.
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Trisha Yearwood's "This Is Me You're Talking To" is on a 45rpm vinyl single.
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