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Pat:
According to my research, commercial 45 copies of Johnny Lee's "Lookin' for Love" state a run time of 3:36 on the record label. The actual 45 run time appears to be 3:40, based on the database comments for many of the song's CD appearances. This printed vs. actual run time difference should probably be noted in the database.
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Todd: The actual running time of my stock commercial 45 is (3:34). The listed time is "3:36"(Full Moon/Asylum E-47004).
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Interesting, abagon... It sounds like there may be two different pressings of this 45. Would you mind sharing for us the matrix number that's printed on the run-out grooves of your 45? Perhaps Pat could let us know the matrix number on his copy as well.
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The matrix number on the run-out groove is "ES-47004-A 4CP" "MASTERED AT ZENTZ L.A. CALF."
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my commercial 45 issued as full moon/asylum 47004 states a run time on the label as 3:36 but runs 3:34.....info in the run out groove is "es-47004-a 3cth"...if you use the cd version below and fade out for 0:03 from 3:31 to 3:34 you'll effectively recreate the true vinyl 45 version....
(S) (3:36) Rhino 71893 Radio Daze: Pop Hits Of The 80's Volume Four
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Reviving this old thread...(a quick aside - for a thread
this old, should one revive or start a new topic?)
There are two different mixes/versions of "Lookin' for
Love" - LP version and single version. I can't speak to
all the comps on which the song appears, but the 3:28
version with truncated fade is the single version,
quickly faded about :06 early. The version on Rhino's
"Radio Daze" series is the LP version, so the true single
cannot be recreated from it.
The single is slightly pitched up, and is a remix. The
mix differences are not overwhelming, but are apparent.
The easiest way to differentiate is in the intro. The
second, harmony guitar is louder, especially in the
intro, and the eq is much smoother in the upper mids. On
the LP version, the second guitar is more buried in the
mix, and the snare drum rimshot is much more prominent.
With some speed adjustment and eq, the full 45 version
version can be recreated by tacking the LP fade on to the
truncated single mix, and be virtually undetectable.
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Jay,
I always thought there was a difference in what I was
hearing. I took your advice and grabbed the Greatest Hits
version and pasted on the LP ending after a speed change
and some tweaking with the EQ. It may not be perfect but
works for me.
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Good song as I remember playing this when I was only 4
years old! I'd revive the thread and that way the
information is kept so it can be referenced.
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Nice work, Jay!
In comparing the various versions, I thought Rhino had merely unearthed a lower-generation tape source than all the other compilations out there. Nope.
Listen on the opening notes of the song. Jay correctly points out that the harmonizing guitar is more prominent in the 45 mix. It's subtle, for sure.
I have the 45 mix running 3:34 on Time-Life's 2-CD Echoes Of Love (1991). The same analog transfer is used on a 2-CD set called Legends Of Country Music (1993).
There's another analog transfer running 3:28 on JCI's Only Country 1980-1984 (1995), which shortens the fade compared to the above two. The same analog transfer is used on Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Country Vol. 11 1980-1984 (1999; left and right channels are swapped) and Warner Special Products' Mystic Music Presents Soft Love (1999).
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I have the 45 mix running 3:34 on Time-Life's 2-CD Echoes Of Love (1991). The same analog transfer is used on a 2-CD set called Legends Of Country Music (1993). |
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So Ron is the actual 45 version a match to the Time Life and Legends of Country Music? Just curious.
Edited by PopArchivist on 08 February 2021 at 11:20pm
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Yes, those two CDs match the 45. Same mix, same fade points, same length.
I suspect that any disc running 3:34 will also match the 45, but I can't confirm.
I also suspect that any disc running 3:28 has its mastering based on Johnny Lee's Warner Bros. Greatest Hits, but I can't confirm.
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The moment you hear the beginning of the 45 hit mix you'll
know the difference.
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Late to the party for this discussion but I just recently joined.
The 45 version of Lookin' For Love was issued on the 1989
Warner Bros. various artists compilation Country Love
Songs [Warner Bros. 25967-2] Running time listed on the
insert is 3:37 but the audio fades out at about 3:34.
That compilation is available as a download but from the brief
sample I cannot verify that it is indeed exactly the same as the
1989 CD release. The running time is listed as 3:38.
Qobuz has a CD quality download of that track available as a
WAV or FLAC file for $1.69. See it here:
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/country-love-songs-
country-love-songs/0075992596763
Edited by CountryPD on 05 August 2023 at 11:03am
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