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eriejwg
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 6:41pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Anyone know the differences between the 45 and LP versions?
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 7:48pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

The introduction is :12 longer on the LP than on the 45.
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 7:58pm | IP Logged Quote Roscoe

The first 5.6 seconds of the intro are chopped off, and there's another edit in the intro that omits most of the second violin line. The 45 runs 2:48; kind of pointless since the LP version only runs 3:00. They must have thought that extra :12 of instrumental intro made a difference.
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 8:19pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Gentlemen, thank you! A couple easy edits and I now have a file running 2:48.
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Posted: 12 October 2011 at 10:38am | IP Logged Quote davidclark

hummm, i would like to make my own edit, however with the info here, and
no 45 to reference, I can not determine what "most of the second violin line"
means. Can someone exact the edit points for me? Or, send me an MP3?

thanks....

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Posted: 14 October 2011 at 7:21am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 for the dave mason song "we just disagree" issued as columbia 10575 states the run time as 2:51 but actually runs 2:49 and is an edit of the full length 2:59 version.....this 45 run time info s/b added to the db......aaron thanks for the edit you did for me yaers ago....

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Posted: 15 February 2013 at 10:53pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I agree with David and don't understand the 2nd edit of the intro. Can someone elaborate on the 2nd piece that's edited? I have the song on CD but want a WAV that is the single edit.
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Posted: 25 October 2015 at 7:12pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have the LP version on a few CDs, and, surprisingly, all sound pretty good.

The oldest CD I have with "We Just Disagree" is Columbia's Rock Classics Of The '70s (1989), where it runs 2:59. The same analog transfer is used for:
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 34 Late '70s (1993)
  • Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 24 1977 (1997; digitally exactly 3.649 dB louder than Sounds Of The Seventies)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 4 1976-1977 (2000; digitally exactly 3.649 dB louder than Sounds Of The Seventies)
The version on Sony's Seems Like Yesterday Vol. 3 (1990) is a tiny bit muffled. The version on Sony's cheapie After The Love (1991) has a slightly longer fade than the others. The version on Rhino's Listen To The Music '70s Male Singer Songwriters (1996) sounds about the same as After The Love.

Really, all of the above sound just fine for the LP version.

Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from Rhino's Listen To The Music '70s Male Singer Songwriters (1996):

Remove the first 8 beats from 0:00.0 to 0:06.0 of the LP version.

Segment 1
Begins on downbeat
Extends from 0:06.0 to 0:15.4 of the LP version
Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:09.4 of the 45 edit
Ends mid-beat

Remove the 8 beats from 0:15.4 to 0:21.0 of the LP version.

Segment 2
Begins mid-beat
Extends from 0:21.0 to 3:01.7 (end) of the LP version
Extends from 0:09.4 to 2:50.1 (end) of the 45 edit

Your mixdown will run 2:48 (or 2:50.1, including outro silence) with one edit at 0:09.4.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 26 October 2015 at 11:14am


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