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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 08 January 2009 at 2:44pm | IP Logged
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Browsing around the net, came across this page for Sam Neely and the album, Sam Neely 2. It appears its been reissued from Taliesyn music with bonus tracks, including "You Can Have Her." Anyone have knowledge of the quality of the CD?
Sam Neely 2 with bonus tracks
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 08 January 2009 at 7:21pm | IP Logged
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John, I ordered this CD directly from Taliesyn last year, and they are vinyl dubs. Sounds to me like they used nice-quality LPs, augmented by some "standard" noise reduction software, but the result is nowhere near what many of the folks on this Board can achieve. As a result, I still consider "You Can Have Her" as a "don't have on CD" item on my list, despite owning that CD. I believe the CDs are actually "unlicensed from A&M/Capitol" bootlegs, done by Sam's family (Sam died around two years ago, as I recall.) For fans of Sam's music, I imagine these otherwise-not-on-CD collections are fine. But for most of our purposes, they are a no-go.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 08 January 2009 at 8:05pm | IP Logged
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Thanks Jim for your input. Looks as though you'll save me some $$$ and others as well. A shame that this song is not yet available.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 15 November 2010 at 12:52am | IP Logged
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I just noticed tonight that Pat has recently included that earlier-referenced Taliesyn CD in his database, but without any indication/notation that it is from a vinyl dub. The source on my CD was/is clearly vinyl. I'm wondering if perhaps Pat owns a 2nd pressing of this CD, which may use a tape source, or if it was just an db oversight that failed to note this fact.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 01 April 2013 at 4:33pm | IP Logged
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my commercial 45 for the sam neely song 'you can have her'
issued as a&m 1612 states the run time on the label as 3:00
but actually only runs 2:57 and is identical to the version
on the cd 'neely2'...thanks frank for providing me with the
track for analysis.....this 45 run time s/b added to the
db....
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MMathews MusicFan
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Posted: 02 April 2013 at 12:25am | IP Logged
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After hearing some of the tracks on the above Sam Neely
CD's, i am not convinced that all the tracks are sourced
from vinyl, including "You Can Have Her".
That does not mean i am stating i think they are good
tape sources.
I am stating that i am not hearing some subtle things
that i would hear in a processed vinyl dub.
It is also possible that the high (too high) level of
noise reduction was applied to remove excessive hiss.
(For example, if reel to reel tapes were used, or the
family had high generation tape copies.)
Some of the bonus tracks ARE from vinyl, and they contain
the proper tell-tale signs of vinyl dubs.
So, for now it's my opinion that some tracks were from
noisy tape, others were from vinyl.
Sounds to me like the LP tracks weere from [hissy] tapes,
and all the bonus singles from 45's.
Either way, i'm glad to have any source for some of these
tracks, as it seems the major labels involved obviously
have little interest in re-issuing them (if they have the
right to.)
MM
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