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Posted: 22 October 2005 at 10:29pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

need a liitle help here........paul mccartney's hit "coming up" was issued as the studio version on the a side of the 45 columbia 11263 but all the books state the live version as the hit version........why would the b-side of the song be the hit side???..

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Posted: 23 October 2005 at 2:42am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Because that was the version favored by radio DJs, and MAY have been the video version, though I'm not sure. Sad that it's never been issued with the unedited applause and audiece chanting at the end... though with a real clean copy of a 45, it's be easy enough to dub it in, I suppose.

Whitburn said "airplay and sales quickly favored the live version," though I don't know how anywone could know which verson anyone was buying it for.
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Posted: 23 October 2005 at 7:50am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

The video version was the studio one--the one where Paul and Linda play about 15 different people (including Paul donning his 1964 Beatle outfit, and also playing at least one character playing the guitar RIGHT-handed).

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Posted: 23 October 2005 at 12:49pm | IP Logged Quote budaniel

Here in New York, the version I always heard the most on the top 40 radio stations was the studio version. The live version was usually only heard on rock stations.
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Posted: 24 October 2005 at 5:27am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

edtop40 wrote:
need a liitle help here........paul mccartney's hit "coming up" was issued as the studio version on the a side of the 45 columbia 11263 but all the books state the live version as the hit version........why would the b-side of the song be the hit side???..


Actually, this practice was fairly common in the radio industry. Sometimes DJ's would prefer the B-side to the record company's chosen A-side or they would like the B-side equally as much (thus the "double-sided" hit).

In the case of "Coming Up"...I remember reading in most of the trades at the time, that by the time the song hit the Top 10 at the end of May 1980, almost every radio station had switched to the B-side and record store owners were reporting that customers were specifically asking to buy the more uptempo live version. Thus, the live version is what you now see on most McCartney compilations.
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Posted: 25 October 2005 at 6:55pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Hmmm, I'm from NY too, and all I ever heard when it was a hit was the live version. (on Long Island, that is...)
I recall do thinking it was odd at the time, that it was stuck on the B-side, as a second track no less! (you didn't see that too often by then).
And yet, when it was on the chart, the Hot 100 entry read "Coming Up (Live At Glasgow)", and that's how it appears in the Whitburn.

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Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:12pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

on my 45 the "live" version is the first track on the b-side and not the second track.......you might want to check you 45.......we want to be as thorough as possible on this site........

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Posted: 27 October 2005 at 5:39pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Oh, oops. I no longer have my copy of the 45, but now that you mention it, it was the first track. Didn't want to start a wrong-confusion over differing pressings.
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Posted: 25 July 2008 at 4:05pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

This in from abagon... The actual commercial 45 run time of Paul McCartney & Wing's "Coming Up (Live at Glasgow)" is 3:48, not 3:51 as stated on the record label.
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Posted: 25 July 2008 at 5:17pm | IP Logged Quote anthology123

I remember living in LA and hearing the LIVE version on top40 radio about
2-3 weeks before it hit the national charts. My local record shop had it, and
when I played the A side, it didn't sound right. Then the B-side had want I
heard.

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Posted: 15 June 2011 at 1:01am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

FYI, sadly, the 45 version of "Coming Up (Live at Glasgow)" is NOT on the new ramster of "McCartney II." It is "neither the 45 nor LP version." There actually seems to be a longer instrumental break in this that was edited out of the original single that's been restored for this new release... it runs 4:04. But the audience chanting at the end of the song that is on the 45 has not been included.

BTW, I didn't buy it -- Napster will let you listen to whole songs if you're a registered member.
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Posted: 15 June 2011 at 12:12pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Paul Haney wrote:
Actually, this practice was fairly common in the radio industry. Sometimes DJ's would prefer the B-side to the record company's chosen A-side or they would like the B-side equally as much (thus the "double-sided" hit).


Except that by 1980 few DJs had any say in which version of a song got played...it was the program or music director's call. Besides, outside of the really small markets, most stations had their music on cart by then.



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Posted: 15 June 2011 at 7:22pm | IP Logged Quote KentT

Live version B side in my market and surrounding markets was the accepted version. And in the end the hit version. The uptempo fun side was also a DJ favorite and listener favorite.

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Posted: 01 July 2011 at 7:14pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 of the live version runs 3:29 and is identical to the version on the below cd......

(S) (3:28) Capitol 48287 Paul McCartney: All The Best

the db states the live version runs 3:48.....is that right or is the studio version the 3:48 running time one?

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Posted: 01 July 2011 at 7:56pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

That's certainly interesting news, Ed. All 45 copies I've heard run 3:48 with additional stage banter and crowd applause that is faded out on the CD version.

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Posted: 01 July 2011 at 8:30pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

On my 45 the live audience starts chanting Paul's name at the very end once the song is over (which is missing on every CD version I've heard).

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Posted: 01 July 2011 at 10:10pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my notes were wrong....i just re-checked the vinyl 45....my vinyl 45 has the additional crowd noise....my apolgese.....

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I only knew about the studio version.   That's what radio
played out here in the southwest. I didn't even know the
live version was the hit until the 90s!

It's kind of like Deep Purple's "Smoke On The Water". I
never heard radio play the studio version, only the live
hit version in the fall of 1973.

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I just ran across this while reading some of these interesting older posts. I was at a major market station at that time and had a good relationship with the Columbia rep. I had gotten and early leak of McCartney II and told him I did not hear a hit single. A few weeks later he brought in a 12 inch test pressing of "Coming Up." On the flip side was the version of it from the Glascow concert(I still have it). I told him that I felt that the live arrangement was more suited to be a single. So did a number of other PDs/MDs. I was told shortly thereafter that Columbia was holding up the album to include the live 45 as a bonus, and that was the version that would be promoted as a single. One day, months later, he brought me in a personalized, signed, thank you from Paul McCartney (framed on my office wall)and an interview pressed on an album as a gift. He said McCartney did this for six people. I thought it was cool that he was still appreciative of us little people.

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Posted: 08 August 2013 at 6:47am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

The Hits Man wrote:
I only knew about the studio
version.   That's what radio
played out here in the southwest. I didn't even know the
live version was the hit until the 90s!


The only place I heard the studio version back in 1980
was on AT40, radio played the live version.

Quote:
It's kind of like Deep Purple's "Smoke On The
Water". I
never heard radio play the studio version, only the live
hit version in the fall of 1973.


Same here, though the studio version was noted as
the plug side on promo copies.


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