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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 25 October 2005 at 5:17pm | IP Logged
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anyone know if the version of "hot legs" on rod stewarts "greatest hits" cd from 1979 contains the 45 version.........the actually 45 runs 3:56 while this version on the greatest hits cd is listed as 4:14......i'm hoping this is just an extended version of the 45.........
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It's been a while since Ed started this thread, but I too have been curious as to the origin of the 4:13 version of "Hot Legs" appearing on Rod Stewart's Greatest Hits (Warner Brothers 3373 and 76468), which currently has the database comment: (edit of the LP version). Is this, as Ed inquired, actually the 45 version but :17 longer? Or a radio edit? Or just a new edit that first popped up on the Greatest Hits LP (in which case, a "neither the 45 nor LP version" would be appropriate)?
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Posted: 07 January 2008 at 8:27am | IP Logged
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I'm pretty sure it was a new edit that first popped up on that 'Greatest Hits' album.
There were a few new mixes & edits & fades on that album, such as "Maggie May" with drums centered!
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After listening to the true 45 version, I don't believe it can be recreated from the LP or edit of the LP version.
Edited by eriejwg on 07 January 2008 at 8:01pm
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Hi 'eriejwg'
I always *thought* the 45 could be recreated from the original lp version.
What's different? The mix??
Andy
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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I made a 45 edit from CD one for Clear Channel a while back from the LP version, there was an unusual edit in there, I think you had to move a piece of the song around in a strange way but it could be done. There was a pretty bad edit on that 45 if you listened with headphones. I'll have to dig it up.
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The 45 version can be created from the LP version; however, as Bill notes, there is a very clunky sounding edit in the middle of the song. Actually, there's only two edits and an early fade. One on the intro (that sounds fine) and one in the middle. There's nothing out-of-sequence, either.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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the 45 run time was never added to the db....
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I think I remember the fade and the intro correctly, but I have no idea where the edit is in the middle.
Tried to find the 45 on You Tube, but struck out.
If it's not too much trouble, could someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks!
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It's at 1:43 on the 45 (cuts approximately 2:08 to 2:17 of the LP version). Right after he sings "I love you honey," there is some sort of unintelligible "bleh" vocal, and then the edit cuts out the bass solo. The edit starts on the first note of the lead guitar solo, but instead of editing on the drum beat, it edits in the middle of a cymbal crash. It's tricky to describe in words.
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Thanks, Aaron!
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aaron, i would love to hear that 1:43 edit point to help me make a 45 edit...I
can guess at it, but without the actual, I can't be sure I am getting it right.
Also, need to hear the fade (I did the intro edit from memory!).
thanks!
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The LP version of "Hot Legs" sounds great on the 4-CD Storyteller (1989), where it runs 5:14. It's very compressed/limited on Very Best Of (2001) and incorrectly edited on Greatest Hits (copyright 1979). Overall, Storyteller sounds great and has a good enough track selection to make all of the other WB-era Rod Stewart collections obsolete.
The 45 version runs 3:56, and can be edited down from the LP version with two edits and an early fade. The second edit is laughably bad - one of the very worst I've ever heard on a 45, but I confirmed it with two different needledrops of the 45. I'm going to give my editing instructions with extra significant figures in the numbers, because otherwise you'd never match the true edit location for the second edit.
Segment 1
32 beats long, not counting the opening snare hit
Extends from 0:00 to 0:17.664 of both the LP version and 45 edit
Ends on a downbeat
Remove the 48 beats from 0:17.664 to 0:42.981 of the LP version.
Segment 2
Begins on a downbeat
Extends from 0:17.664 to 1:43.339 of the 45 edit
Extends from 0:42.981 to 2:08.656 of the LP version
Ends very awkwardly after a nonsense syllable
Remove the 16 beats from 2:08.656 to 2:17.269 of the LP version.
Segment 3
Begins mid-crash cymbal. OUCH!
Extends from 1:43.339 to 3:58.190 of the 45 edit
Extends from 2:17.269 to 4:32.119 of the LP version
Fade
16 beats long
Begins and ends on downbeats
Extends from 3:49.81 to 3:58.190 of the 45 edit
Extends from 4:23.74 to 4:32.119 of the LP version
Your mixdown will run 3:58, with a good edit at 0:17.7 and a terrible-sounding edit at 1:43.3, and a 16-beat fade from 3:50 to 3:58.
Seriously, you'll never be able to un-hear that second edit.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 15 June 2015 at 5:21am
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