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Posted: 01 June 2009 at 5:39pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

The actual commercial 45 run time of Ambrosia's "How Much I Feel" is 4:44. (Thanks to Jim for providing the timing info. The printed record label time is 4:46.) I only post this because database CDs containing this song run 4:41-4:46.
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Posted: 09 June 2009 at 9:51am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

In a recent e-mail conversation with my good friend Abagon, he informed me "How Much I Feel" has an actual run time of 4:40 on his Japanese pressing of Ambrosia's Life Beyond L.A. vinyl LP. This is :04 shorter in length than the U.S. commercial 45.    

That said, does anyone have a U.S. vinyl LP pressing of Life Beyond L.A. who can verify the run time of "How Much I Feel"?
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Posted: 09 June 2009 at 12:29pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Todd, the track on my vinyl U.S. pressing of Life Beyond L.A. (WB 3135) runs an actual 4:43. The label's printed time is 4:45.
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Posted: 09 June 2009 at 1:41pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Thanks very much, Yah Shure! Looks like the difference in length between the 45 and LP isn't significant after all.
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 6:09am | IP Logged Quote abagon

Thank you very much, Yah Shure and Todd! I'm glad I've known the US LP's actual running time.

--abagon
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Posted: 17 March 2015 at 4:54pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500

I see on ebay that the promotional 45 had a mono and stereo side but no
edit of a 4:45 song.
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Posted: 17 March 2015 at 8:58pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Which is precisely why there are no details of a shorter, DJ 45 edit included
anywhere in the history of this song's thread!   :)
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Posted: 17 March 2015 at 10:54pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

I tried to edit this once, because I had to fit a certain
number of songs in limited time, but I gave up. Nothing
worked well, maybe they felt the same way when they were
putting it on a single.
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Posted: 25 March 2015 at 10:27pm | IP Logged Quote 80smusicfreak

jimct wrote:
Which is precisely why there are no details of a shorter, DJ 45 edit included anywhere in the history of this song's thread!   :)

Hey, not so fast, jimct! :-) Your comment above implies that you've already uncovered every promo/dj version that exists for all top 40 hits from the '70s & '80s. (I'm paraphrasing, but I know you basically said that about the '80s over in another thread not too long ago.) Well, I don't know about Ambrosia's "How Much I Feel", but I can tell you that I recently discovered a U.S. dj-only version of a top 10 hit from 1985 that I know you must not yet have among your extremely in-depth collection of promo 45s. :-) I say that because it's never been mentioned in either of the two threads dedicated to that song here on Pat's board, nor is this unique version mentioned in Pat's current notes for the song in the db! (And as I've said here many times over the years, I don't even collect 45s, for the most part - so yes, there are still more dj-only versions to be uncovered from the '80s, anyway.) Details - including links to photos of this apparently rare U.S. promo 45 - coming to the board shortly... :-)
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Posted: 26 March 2015 at 1:36am | IP Logged Quote jimct

Go for it, Gregg! I've also said on multiple occasions that no one person
can know everything. Just because you think I implied something, that
doesn't mean I actually did. Statements made are misinterpreted by others
all the time. (Although I honestly can't remember the last time a new 80's
promo 45 version for a db song has been un-earthed on here. It's gotta
be 3-4 years now, at the very least.)      

I never made any such statement about the 70's, however. You
paraphrased incorrectly. If you recall, I just discovered/reported on that
1977 "Disco Lucy" DJ 45 short v myself last month, remember? My
Ambrosia statement applied to that particular song only. I do very much
look forward to your alleged new 80's find, however.    

Yeah, our station did get 99% + of Top 40 promo product back in the day.
And I was there for all of the 1980s. But personnel changes at the labels
were frequent. Often, local/regional reps would mail promo 45
copies/items out themselves, with a note included, for that "personal
touch." If a song came out during such a transition, the new rep wouldn't
always know what songs the old rep had hand-mailed out, and to which
stations. And sometimes, as with all shipments, a few mass-mailing items
did get lost in the mail. It wasn't until the label rep called us later, about
that rare song it turned out we didn't have in-house yet, that we'd both
realize this, and they'd next-day-air us more copies. And if this happened
for a song that either they weren't "working", or wasn't on our radar, we
may never have known of it/ever gotten a re-send for it at all.

The late 80s "promo 45 to promo CD single" transitional era did hold
some surprises, as well. We added "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates
Jazz very early on, in 1988. We got in a promo 45, and played it on-air off
of a 2-CD Virgin promo sampler, which also featured the 45 version.
None of us at the station ever knew that an early promo CD single had
been made for it. But, sure enough, Discogs has one listed now, and I
hope to find a copy of it someday, even though it appears to include the
same version found on the 45 and the sampler, which I still have. If that
had included multiple radio-length versions on it, however, that could've
been a new find for us here.

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Posted: 28 April 2015 at 7:09pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

The oldest version of the song I have on CD is Mystic Music/Cema's 2-CD Mellow Gold (1991), which has noise reduction and should be avoided.

There was a new analog transfer for Time-Life's 4-CD Great Love Songs Of The 70's And 80's Vol. 4 Endless Love (1991). The same analog transfer is used for:
  • Razor & Tie's 2-CD Easy '70s (1993)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk (1994; differently EQ'd digital clone of Easy '70s)
  • JCI's Only Love 1975-1979 (1995)
  • Warner Special Products' 2-CD Seventies Feelings (1995)
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 39 Pop Nuggets Late '70s (1995; differently EQ'd digital clone of Easy '70s but with additional compression; avoid)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 3 Moonlit Nights (1996; differently EQ'd digital clone of Easy '70s)
  • Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 25 1978 (1997)
Bill Inglot did a new analog transfer for Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 25 (1996), which I prefer slightly over the T-L mastering. There's a digitally identical clone on:
  • Time-Life's Mellow Rock Hits Summer Breeze (1997)
Finally, there's one more analog transfer done for a disc I don't have (maybe WB's Anthology?) I say this because the following three discs are more than likely sourced from somewhere; none use original mastering. They're all digitally identical to one another:
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 12 1975-1979 (2001)
  • How Much I Feel And Other Hits (2003)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 2 Ride Like The Wind (2006)
My recommendation:

Go with Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 25 (1996).

Edited by crapfromthepast on 29 April 2015 at 7:04am


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