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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 10:10pm | IP Logged
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The hit "You Can't Deny It" by Lisa Stansfield is listed in the database with run times of (4:31) and (4:20); however, no notation is made as to why there is a time discrepancy. Can anyone shed some light?
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 10:39pm | IP Logged
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Aaron:
My research indicates that a 1-track promo CD single release of "You Can't Deny It" was issued on Arista ASCD 2034 with a printed run time of 4:21. I can't elaborate any further since I don't have this promo CD single nor the commercial single, but this printed time closely coincides with that of the shorter version/length found on Stansfield's Biography CD (Arista/BMG Heritage 10616). The one thing we do know right now is the album version/length, as it appears on Stansfield's Affection album, is 4:31.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 5:57am | IP Logged
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my cassingle issued as arista 12024 does not state explicitly that it is a remix, but it is.....the liner notes state "string arrangements & remix by devaney/morris. remix engineer:george shilling.
the only place i've been able to find the correct single version is on the promo cd single, which i have at my house and can't provide data till monday.....but the cassingle version does run 4:32 like the full length cd/lp version......if you a/b the two versions, the place to notice the differences are at the 2:59-3:14 mark.....there is more background instrmentals on the single version at this point....
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 7:01am | IP Logged
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Thanks, Ed! The database is missing this information, so I'm glad you discovered it. It looks like Pat will have to add notations to the database CDs.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 8:32am | IP Logged
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I just noticed that there is a US CD single (ASCD 2025) with the same stated run time and remix credits as on Ed's cassette single.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 23 August 2009 at 4:03pm | IP Logged
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Aaron, ASCD-2025 is the one I have as well. This was normally the numbering sequence for Arista promo CD singles at this time, but this particular disc also includes a UPC block, with #7822-12025-2 inside it. Nowhere on it does it specifically say "promo", but a "CD5" instead. This looks to me like a very short-lived experiment by Arista to try a dual-numbered, commercial/promo CD single hybrid. Containing 3 tracks, only cut 1 is "You Can't Deny It" (listed & actual 4:32), while cuts 2 & 3 were the non-LP tracks "Lay Me Down" and "Something Is Happening", respectively. I'm now gonna start tryin' to track down the ASCD-2034 promo CD single that Aaron's recent research has uncovered.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 23 August 2009 at 4:43pm | IP Logged
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jimct wrote:
I'm now gonna start tryin' to track down the ASCD-2034 promo CD single that Aaron's recent research has uncovered. |
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Good luck on finding that promo; however, it was actually Todd who made the discovery :D
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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I have just obtained the dj cd single of "You Can't Deny It" which is Arista 2024 the same catalog number as the cassette single. This conflicts with Todd's report of a catalog number of 2034. Yes this is a 1 track remix with no bar code and the dj copy runs (4:24) not (4:21) as stated on the cd. This 45 version is found on the Lisa Stansfield cd "Biography: The Greatest Hits". Now I also have a commercial 3 track cd single (catalog number 2025) with the remix on it but the commercial cd has a cd running time of (4:31) not (4:32) as stated on the cd jacket.
Edited by Pat Downey on 22 October 2009 at 6:12pm
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jimct MusicFan
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Just accidently stumbled upon a long-misfiled promo CD single for "You Can't Deny It". I can confirm Pat's recently posted details (ASCD-2024; not 2034, although I probably would've reported the disc's actual time as (4:25).) I'm almost done with a massive, complete A-Z doublecheck of my entire P CD S collection, so I hopefully won't have any other mis-filings, going forward.
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