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Posted: 27 March 2010 at 10:59am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

There are definitely multiple versions of "Meet Virginia." I have a copy on my Promo Only series that has an extra guitar overdub after the guitar solo and before the last verse. I would assume this is one of the two radio versions, but I don't own the promo. (The official music video has this version.)

This isn't the version my old top 40 station played, though. They played what I believe to be an edit of the album version. At the same part on the album version, after the solo, the instrumental section before the last verse (which is missing the guitar overdub on the album version) is cut in half. Perhaps this is also one of the two radio versions.

Hopefully someone can provide some insight.
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Posted: 28 March 2010 at 11:17pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Aaron the only promo CD single I own for this song includes just one track:

-Train-"Meet Virginia" (CSK 42576)
1-(Pop Mix) (listed 3:44; actual 3:43)

I will shoot it out to you, sir, for you to analyze/compare against your Promo Only version.

Edited by jimct on 28 March 2010 at 11:23pm
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Posted: 29 March 2010 at 7:15am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

I have a U.S. promo CD single (CSK 41775) with the following tracks:

1. Radio Version #1 (listed 3:58; my timing 3:56)
2. Radio Version #2 (listed 4:00; my timing 3:57)
3. Album Version (listed 4:00; my timing 3:57)

My timings may be off by a second or two. Tracks 1 and 2 are indicated as being "remixed by Matt Wallace".

The Promo Only version Aaron describes matches both Track 1 and Track 2. (I haven't yet been able to detect the difference between the two radio versions).

The jewel case has a label stating "Add date 3/23", but this song did not debut on the Hot 100 until October 9, 1999. I don't think a commercial single was released in the U.S.
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Posted: 29 March 2010 at 9:23am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Jim and Paul, thanks so much for uncovering this information. I haven't yet had a chance to listen to the "Pop Mix" from Jim's promo CD, but I am certain this is the version my old top 40 station played. Thanks so much for sending it over, Jim! I'll do some comparing to the Radio Version on my Promo Only CD to see if I can detect any mix differences, other than the overdub.
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Posted: 30 March 2010 at 10:24am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just did my comparison, and the Pop Mix has the electric guitars mixed down slightly. Also, there are two edits: one during the solo, and one during the instrumental section after the solo. The album version is also mixed slightly different from both the Pop Mix and the Radio Version.

That said, the mix differences are very slight, and you'd probably never notice unless doing a direct A/B comparison.
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Posted: 31 March 2010 at 12:28am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Not sure if you guys know this, but Pat Monahan, the lead singer of Train, is originally from here in the Erie, PA area.
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Posted: 16 July 2011 at 11:08am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

i have a promo cd single for the train song "meet virginia" issued as sony/aware records awapro12 which contains the below tracks

1-edit (3:50 listed; 3:47 actual)
2-album version (4:00 listed; 4:00 actual)

this info s/b added to the db....

the copyright date is 1998

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 6:13pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

with so many promo cd singles issued during its chart run,
does anyone remember which version got the most
airplay?...the 'edit' version, the 'pop mix' version or the
'radio version #1'....

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Posted: 06 February 2013 at 7:07am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

edtop40 wrote:
with so many promo cd singles issued
during its chart run,
does anyone remember which version got the most
airplay?...the 'edit' version, the 'pop mix' version or
the
'radio version #1'....


We were serviced with the same promo as PaulC has, we
played one of the radio versions (I didn't hear any
difference between them either, so I just picked one when
I dubbed it into the automation).

Dunno if we got any of the other variations of promo
singles on this. Despite being an R&R reporter, service
from Columbia was kind of spotty.

Edited by Hykker on 06 February 2013 at 7:36am
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Posted: 06 February 2013 at 10:26am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

edtop40 wrote:
i have a promo cd single for the train song "meet virginia" issued as sony/aware records awapro12

Ed, out of curiosity, does this promo say "Printed in USA" or any reference to being a US promo? The catalog number is odd for a US release, so could it be an import?

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Posted: 06 February 2013 at 7:03pm | IP Logged Quote Smokin' TomGary

I have a Sony/Aware test pressing (A9B19QK1S) with one track listed as Radio Edit with a listed time of 3:44 and actual time of 3:42.
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Posted: 06 February 2013 at 7:33pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

aaron,

the promo cd single issued as aware awapro12 is a usa
issue.....i guess it was the original issue before it was
picked up by sony music...

Edited by edtop40 on 25 July 2020 at 8:05am


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Posted: 27 September 2018 at 8:36pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

I never heard the Pop Mix on the radio that is 3:43, only the Now 4 US version, which was the radio version.





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Posted: 27 May 2021 at 9:23pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Here are all the various versions of "Meet Virginia" I have on promo CD singles:

Album Version (4:00)

Edit (3:47) (edit of the LP version, cutting guitar solo in half)

Pop Mix (3:43) (also called "Radio Edit" on a promo CD-R)

Radio Version #1 (3:57) (most notable by electric guitar overdubs after guitar solo just before last verse)

Radio Version #2 (3:57) (almost identical to Radio Version #1, but lead vocal is slightly louder and lead guitar slightly lower)

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Posted: 19 March 2022 at 6:49am | IP Logged Quote promojunkie

Anyone know if you were to edit the song to create the pop
mix (3:43), which version of the song would be used, the
LP Version, one of the radio mixes from the promo cd (CSK
41775) or none of the above as it is a unique mix?

Edited by promojunkie on 19 March 2022 at 6:22pm


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Posted: 19 March 2022 at 1:02pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

TM Century lists Radio Version #1 and Radio Version #2 in
their online database so that would appear to be the
version(s) that received the most airplay.

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promojunkie wrote:
Anyone know if you were to edit the song to create the pop
mix (3:43), which version of the song would be used, the
LP Version, one of the radio mixes from the promo cd (CSK
41775) or none of the above as it is a unique mix?


I think the promo is available for cheap. Why recreate?

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