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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 6:15pm | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

A couple of years back I came across a website that listed Whitney Houston remixes on CD, and to my surprise there was an entry for "Just The Lonely Talking Again" from the 1987 "Whitney" album.

I didn't even know the song been released as a single, and to date I have not seen it sold anywhere or even a photo of it.

The catalog number supposedly is ASCD-9697.

Track listing:
extended remix 7.15
edited remix 5.56
single edit 5.05
album version 5.30

Per the number, the promo CD must have been issued in between "Where Do Broken Hearts Go" and "Love Will Save The Day". I read that a promo 12" single was also released.

I do have an mp3 file with the extended remix, and there are vocals not present on the original version and instrumental parts, neither of which could have been recreated from the original version, so I'm sure it's official.

Does anyone have any more information on the CD, chart info if exists, etc?

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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 6:33pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

I do remember seeing that promo single long, long ago, in the mid-90s. It never charted, and was not commercially released as a single anywhere in the world. I think it wasn't doing well in airplay, so it was pulled.
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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 7:09pm | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

Wow, thanks Brian. There must be very few copies around because I see the other promo cd singles from that album quite often.
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 10:15am | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

Has anybody ever received this promo CD at the radio
station? I'm still intrigued by it, in 15 years it's the
first time I see this for sale online, it's currently
selling at Ebay for (of course) a very high price.

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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 10:52am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Wow, its starting price was $1, and now, 22 bids later, it's at $365! And there's still one more day to go before the auction closes.
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 8:38pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Brian W:

I'm pretty sure this track was released to Urban AC formats & Quiet Storm programmers & not really meant to chart. I don't think it was meant to be the 5th official single & then pulled (switched with "Love will save The Day") because of lack of support.

Of course I could be wrong...

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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 11:00pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

elcoleccionista wrote:
Has anybody ever received this promo CD at the radio
station? I'm still intrigued by it, in 15 years it's the
first time I see this for sale online, it's currently
selling at Ebay for (of course) a very high price.


You could always buy it and resell it. Current price is $500.

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Posted: 23 February 2012 at 1:14am | IP Logged Quote jimct

AndrewChouffi wrote:
I'm pretty sure this track was released to Urban
AC formats & Quiet Storm programmers & not really meant to chart. I
don't think it was meant to be the 5th official single & then pulled
(switched with "Love will save The Day") because of lack of support.

Of course I could be wrong...
Andy
Andy, I believe you to be 100% correct here. We were never
serviced with a "Just The Lonely Talking Again" promo CD single at our
Top 40 station in 1988. "Niche format" promotion (such as the Urban
AC/Quiet Storm formats thoery that Andy espouses here) isn't something
we obviously discuss a whole lot here, on a Top 40 Board. But labels
trying to maximize profits in any way possible was/is like breathing to
them, and showing such "niche" formats a little "specialty release love"
has always gone a long way.
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Posted: 23 February 2012 at 10:36pm | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

Interesting thoughts, thanks guys : )
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discogs is now showing what appears to be a commercial 7" picture sleeve (with a Jermaine Jackson duet on the b-side)!

https://www.discogs.com/Whitney-Houston-Just-The-Lonely-Talk ing-Again/release/11035809



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I'm leaning towards this having been a canceled single release, not a format-specific promotion.

Notice that the back of that 45 sleeve states "This single is also available as a Cassette Single". The promo 12" on discogs appears to be a fully fledged commercial maxi single complete with barcode.

There's also a hype sticker affixed to a CD long box from midway through the promotion of the Whitney album that announces "Just The Lonely Talking Again" as her new single (after "Where Do Broken Hearts Go")




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Posted: 20 December 2017 at 4:50pm | IP Logged Quote Underground Dub

Did anyone here ever manage to track down the 5:05 "Single Version" or have any details on it?

(Sorry, I realize this isn't a Top 40 hit and therefore off-topic, but it's really difficult finding details on this one and I'm fascinated by it.)
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Posted: 20 December 2017 at 5:44pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

What did the auction sell for a few years back?

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Posted: 06 October 2020 at 2:34pm | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

Underground Dub wrote:
Did anyone here ever manage to
track down the 5:05 "Single Version" or have any details on
it?

(Sorry, I realize this isn't a Top 40 hit and therefore off-
topic, but it's really difficult finding details on this one
and I'm fascinated by it.)


The single version is just an early fade of the album
version.
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Posted: 07 October 2020 at 1:06am | IP Logged Quote Underground Dub

elcoleccionista wrote:
Underground Dub wrote:
Did anyone here ever manage to
track down the 5:05 "Single Version" or have any details on
it?

(Sorry, I realize this isn't a Top 40 hit and therefore off-
topic, but it's really difficult finding details on this one
and I'm fascinated by it.)


The single version is just an early fade of the album
version.


Thanks
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Underground Dub wrote:
discogs is now showing what
appears to be a commercial 7" picture sleeve (with a
Jermaine Jackson duet on the b-side)!

https://www.discogs.com/Whitney-Houston-Just-The-
Lonely-Talk ing-Again/release/11035809



Wow, so there WAS a 45 and picture sleeve for this?
It probably didn't get past promo stage. It must also
be insanely rare - there are several 45 collectors on
this forum - has anyone actually ever SEEN one?

My first thought is that there's another one I'll
never be able to find. I remember reading in
Billboard around this time that this would be a
single. Not that I don't like the
song, but I'm surprised Arista would consider
releasing this - after four No. 1 singles, did they
really think this would be a strong follow-up? "Love
Will Save the Day" is a much stronger song.

For the record, there were also promos pressed of
"Queen of the Night", from "The Bodyguard" - but at
least I've seen that one!

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Ah! This may explain why there was an unusual pause in the release rhythm of
that last single from Whitney: "Love will Save the Day" debuted 9 weeks after
"Broken Hearts" peaked… an eternity in those days (compare MJ's follow-up to
Dirty Diana debuting 3 weeks after DD's peak).

They must have planned JTLTA as the follow-up, decided against it, and gone
with LWSTD, creating the slight delay.
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Posted: 10 October 2020 at 10:43am | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

torcan wrote:
Underground Dub wrote:
discogs is now
showing what
appears to be a commercial 7" picture sleeve (with a
Jermaine Jackson duet on the b-side)!

https://www.discogs.com/Whitney-Houston-Just-The-
Lonely-Talk ing-Again/release/11035809



Wow, so there WAS a 45 and picture sleeve for this?
It probably didn't get past promo stage. It must also
be insanely rare - there are several 45 collectors on
this forum - has anyone actually ever SEEN one?



Yes, I know a collector who has both the commercial US
12" single and promo CD Single. You can see photos of the
12" sleeve here:

https://www.discogs.com/Whitney-Houston-Just-The-Lonely-
Talking-Again/release/10879433



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Posted: 11 October 2020 at 6:46am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

Hi people,

Thanks for all the additional information and Discogs
references - it's a fascinating "semi-phantom"
release!

On a similar topic, wasn't it somewhat difficult to
find the single "Thinking Of You" in stores? That was
the release worked to Urban formats only from her
first album.

Anybody have any stories on that one?

Andy

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Posted: 11 October 2020 at 7:21am | IP Logged Quote torcan

AndrewChouffi wrote:

On a similar topic, wasn't it somewhat difficult to
find the single "Thinking Of You" in stores? That was
the release worked to Urban formats only from her
first album.

Anybody have any stories on that one?

Andy

Andi


I've actually got two US copies of the 45 and picture
sleeve. It's a little harder to find than most of her
others but doesn't seem to be that difficult to
locate.

Maybe others have had different experiences?
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