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Okay, can someone give me a primer on how to make the 45 version of We are the World from the LP version? I don't want to plunk down the money for the Quincy Jones boxed set.
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Easy... Just fade the LP version from (6:11) to (6:23).
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I noticed the database says "version" but I've never noticed any edits anywhere in the 45. Can anyone point out one that I missed?
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Thanks, Aaron.
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I agree that you can fade the LP version to end at 6:22 and arrive at the 45 version. The reason I do not use the terminology "length" to distinguish these cd appearances is due to the extra lyrical content found on the LP version beyond the 6:22 mark.
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What's the extra content? Doesn't the chorus just repeat a few more times? Also, wouldn't that go against your definition of "length" since there are no other differences in the song?
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Pat, if the differences occur beyond the 6:22 mark (once the single has ended), then by your own definition, shouldn't the term "length" be used here?
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I only have the (6:22) version from the Rhino Quincy Jones box set, but even with the extension of the song being a rehash of the choruses aren't there different solo vocalists that change from chorus to chorus beyond the song's single length? If so, from that standpoint I can see the 45 version/LP version designation (because it's not really a matter of the choruses just continuing on for 40 more seconds before the LP fade).
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In just about every other instance where the term "version" is used, it designates a difference in the mix, edits within the song, or something other than fading early. As a reader, when I see the word "length" I automatically know that there's just a difference in length between the two and nothing more, which is the case with "We Are The World."
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Even if there are different solo vocalists (or other elements) after the song has faded out on the 45, in my opinion, it still wouldn't make this a "version". Also, by calling it "length", people with the "We Are the World" CD can know that they can create their own "single" simply by fading their CD recording early.
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I see what both of you are saying. Consider Foghat's "Slow Ride", though. The 45 runs roughly (3:55), the LP runs roughly (8:12)--give or take a second or two. Unless I'm missing something (and I certainly could be), there's no real discernable edit in the 45--it just fades much, much earlier than the LP. Granted, we're talking about a four-plus minute difference in time (as opposed to the 40-41 seconds in "We Are The World"), but the same priniciple applies.
I don't have a problem either way.
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If nothing else is chopped off the beginning or middle of the 45 length of "Slow Ride," I'd also call that a "length" instead of version. It's like EdisonLite says--it makes it easy for us "editors" to determine if we need to match edits or just fade early when making our own 45 length/version.
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In the unlikely event that you can find the We Are The World CD (Polygram 824822), which has the full LP length, you can recreate the 45 fade as follows:
Add a 12-beat sinusoidal fade from the snare at 6:13.3, just before the downbeat, to the snare at 6:23.2, just before the line "so let's start giving".
Edited by crapfromthepast on 24 April 2012 at 2:10pm
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