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Posted: 30 December 2010 at 10:28pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

The actual commercial 45 run time of Dr. Hook's "When You're in Love with a Beautiful Woman" is 2:56. (Thanks to my good friend Abagon for relaying the timing info. The printed record label time is 2:58.) I bring this up because the song's database CD entries run from 2:52-2:57.
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Posted: 14 November 2012 at 9:58pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

There exists a 12" promo with a 5:12 remix. Not only is it a unique "disco" mix, but the song is sped up by a whopping 4%.

This may warrant its own thread, but does anyone know of any other top 40 hits from the '70s that had promo 12" mixes/edits not released commercially?

I can say for certain there are 12" promo remixes of "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy" by Rod Stewart and "Lotta Love" by Nicolette Larson, as well as a unique promo 12" edit of "Feels So Good" by Chuck Mangione. Any others?

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Posted: 14 November 2012 at 10:48pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Boney M's "Rivers Of Babylon" 12-inch promo remix was mentioned several years ago in the thread for that song. Listed times were 7:30 and 4:06, with the shorter side being edited further for the 3:45 RE-2 DJ 45 reservice. I've never seen a domestic commercial release for either of those.
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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 12:40am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

I have a commercial 12" of "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy." Does this mean it
differs from the promo 12" version?

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 12:44am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

There are 12" promos of the Doobie Brothers' "What A Fool Believes"
as well as one for "You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts. Have not seen
either on a commercial CD.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 5:01am | IP Logged Quote Fetta

I dont think the 12" Mix of "Lotta Love" by Nicolette Larson was commercially available.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 8:35am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Santi Paradoa wrote:
I have a commercial 12" of "Da Ya Think I'm
Sexy." Does this mean it
differs from the promo 12" version?

Interesting! I'm guessing it's the same mix, but I didn't realize it was
released on a commercial 12".

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 8:46am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Santi Paradoa wrote:
There are 12" promos of the Doobie
Brothers' "What A Fool Believes"
as well as one for "You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts. Have not seen
either on a commercial CD.

The Doobie Brothers was released on a commercial 12", though. Not
sure about the Seals and Crofts.

Also, I should have been more clear. I was wondering about unique
promo 12" versions that were not commercially available on 12" at the
time of release. Since we have done such a thorough job of
documenting promo 7" versions, I thought there may be a few on 12"
singles that were promo only versions. I would think that most promo
12" singles were also released commercially, but there are obviously a
few that only went to DJs and radio. Also, I'm not asking about promo
versions that were serviced on both 7" and 12" singles. Just looking for
what may have been unique to promo 12" vinyl.

The Saturday Night Fever promo "Disco Mixes" is another one that
comes to mind.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 10:27am | IP Logged Quote Fetta

Can send you the "Lotta Love" which I know was a remix.



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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 10:33am | IP Logged Quote Fetta

The 12" promo of Superman by The Kinks has a shorter edit that to my
knowledge was only available on the promo 12".

EDIT...... Sorry, just realized that Superman was not a top 40 hit.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Fetta, I do have that Nicolette Larson promo 12", and I really like that mix! Feel free to add non-top 40 hits if you want.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 1:21pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta

Here's another:

Love Will Save The Day (David Morales Mix) - Whitney Houston

Aaron, are you interested in promo 12"'s that included versions that could
only be found on the 12" or just a listing of promo 12"'s that were not
available commercially? For example, "Love Hangover" by Diana Ross had a
12" that was not available commercially (I think) , however you could find the
version featured on the 12" on the Diana Ross LP.


Edited by Fetta on 15 November 2012 at 1:41pm
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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote Smokin' TomGary

At 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT we played an in-house edit of the promo 12" of "Precious Love" by Bob Welch. I wondered where the bells came from as they are not on the 45/LP. When 13-WAVZ swapped formats and KC-101 was born we played the 12" promo of "Lotta Love".
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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 6:06pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Fetta wrote:
Aaron, are you interested in promo 12"'s that included
versions that could
only be found on the 12" or just a listing of promo 12"'s that were not
available commercially? For example, "Love Hangover" by Diana Ross had
a
12" that was not available commercially (I think) , however you could find
the
version featured on the 12" on the Diana Ross LP.

I'm interested in the former, mainly '70s and '80s. Basically, my thought
is that we've explored just about every possible DJ edit/mix that appeared
on promo 45s. Surely there are a handful of mixes/edits that appeared
only on promo 12" singles and not anywhere else (at least at the time
of release).

Pat does not incorporate 12" single information in the database unless the
12" is considered to be the official single version, so there would be no
way for us to know, for example, that "Lotta Love" had a fantastic (IMO)
disco mix on the promo 12" and can only be found there.

Another one that jimct reminded me about is "Whatcha Gonna Do" by
Pablo Cruise. There was a promo 12" that had a unique extended version
that did not appear on any commercial 12".

I'm not trying to establish an endless list of promo 12" singles that were
ever serviced to radio (there are hundreds and thousands, I'm sure). I'm
just interested in those that contained unique mixes or edits that could
not be found anywhere else.

I'm also not trying to list mixes/edits that also appeared on promo 45s, as
I'm sure there are tons of those, too, especially when you get into the '80s
decade.

I'm going to move this discussion to another thread, and perhaps we can
come up with a nice list.

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Smokin' TomGary wrote:
At 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT we played an in-house edit of the promo 12" of "Precious Love" by Bob Welch. I wondered where the bells came from as they are not on the 45/LP. When 13-WAVZ swapped formats and KC-101 was born we played the 12" promo of "Lotta Love".


TomGary, do you have a copy of that "Precious Love" you speak of? That's a favorite song of mine - it sure would be cool to hear an in-house edit of the 12" (or anything longer than the regular version).
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Posted: 16 November 2012 at 3:10pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Below is the link to the promo only 12" Disco Mix of
"You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts (listed time is 5:29).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o010cw05_gQ

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Posted: 24 February 2013 at 11:04pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Does anyone know if the 12" of "When You're In Love With a Beautiful Woman" has come out on CD overseas? (How about any other 12" mixes of Dr. Hook songs?)
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Posted: 24 February 2013 at 11:54pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

For Gordon;
since i mentioned it, i did some digging, and i think it's
this CD:

http://www.discogs.com/Dr-Hook-Completely-Hooked-The-Best-
Of-Dr-Hook/master/412647

A 1992 EMI UK Collection called "Completely Hooked: The
Best Of Dr. Hook"
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Posted: 25 February 2013 at 12:10am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Nice find, Mark!

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Posted: 25 February 2013 at 1:27am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Just ordered the Dr. Hook import CD on amazon (it was only 70 cents!) Thanks for the tip, Mark!
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