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mainrhythm MusicFan
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 8:44pm | IP Logged
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Besides reversing the questionable? lyrics, were there or did anyone do their own clean edit of this back in the day?
Thanks.
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Jody Thornton MusicFan
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 10:40pm | IP Logged
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I realize that it had dance club success, and that there was a 12" disc of this. But I thought it was the flipside to "Let's Go Crazy". Was it actually a radio hit in some places?
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I don't know about when it was first released, but the top 40 station I
worked for in Detroit in the early 2000s played it as a gold. I'm not
sure where they got their edit, but my guess is that it came from a
RetroMix show.
Ron and I were recently discussing this song, and it's debatable how
many "f" words are in it. My old station, for instance, left the line
"thoughts of pretty u and me" but some consider the word "thoughts"
to also be the "f" word.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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i remember hearing "erotic city" on the radio in new york back in the 1984/1985 timeframe.....i don't know the station, most probably Z-100, or if it was an edited version.....years later i realized it was actually the B-side of one of his hits at the time, either "purple rain" or "let's go crazy".....i'm not in front of my boxes of 45's the check....
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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It got substantial airplay in New York City on both Z100
and WPLJ at the time. It was widely known to be a B-
side, and was played right alongside the other tracks
from Purple Rain.
Both stations had custom edits, probably by their in-
house people (not by WB). The Z100 edit used a
percussive THWACK sound in place of each F-word. The
THWACK might have been a snare drum from some other
Prince song - never figured that one out. The WPLJ edit
just cut out the offending lines that included the F-
word, which disrupted the flow of the song. At the time,
my friends and I preferred the Z100 THWACK edit.
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MMathews MusicFan
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Ah yes, i remember Z100 playing this very well. (i was impressed at the time, thought it was very bold of them, but after all they were the "Flamethrower...")
Ron, as i recall it, that "thwack" sound was a snare hit they took from the intro.
They placed it everywhere that sounded like an "F" bomb.
Funny, i'm reading the lyrics now, and they may indeed be "thoughts of pretty u and me"
... but to my ears (and the radio censors) i am hearing "f**k's afraid o' u and me".
I'm sure the vague-ness of the line was quite intentional, as it sounds that way when either she or he sings it.
:-)
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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I always thought it was "F- so pretty...", although that
doesn't make much sense grammatically.
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aaronk Admin Group
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To add to the vagueness, some even say the other offending line might be "we can funk until the dawn." Considering his later hit "Batdance" has the line "get the funk up," it could be. Better to err on the side of caution, though, for broadcasters.
Edited by aaronk on 08 February 2011 at 3:26pm
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Jody Thornton MusicFan
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aaronk wrote:
To add to the vagueness, some even say the other offending line might be "we can funk until the dawn." Considering his later hit "Batdance" has the line "get the funk up," it could be. Better to err on the side of caution, though, for broadcasters. |
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That's the view I took, so when I DJ at weddings or the like, I have edited my own censored version of it. Luckily there are lots of measure of the music during the song to use as suitanble filler for those few seconds.
The hard part? I did this edit years ago on open-reel. I was very patient back then.
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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It was a power for me in OKC at KJ-103, my competitor KOFM was too lazy to edit it. Number one requested song. I was able to splice in "Erotic City" in place of the Thoughts of pretty. Because sometimes Prince sings "Erotic City can't you see, Thoughts of Pretty you and me, and at another place sings "Thoughts of Pretty you and me, Erotic City Come Alive"
So I just made it every time that line came up I cut it to say "Erotic City can't you see, Erotic City come alive"
For the word funk I put in the snare. I didn't censor the cherry line.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Since a few of us here DJ at weddings, has anyone tried modern day custom edits for "Erotic City?"
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eric_a MusicFan
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Back in the '90s, Promo Only put out a big library of for mobile DJs. I never owned the set, but I seem to recall it including a clean edit of EC, probably something created inhouse.
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aaronk Admin Group
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I have my own edit, but I rarely play it at weddings.
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Jody Thornton MusicFan
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eriejwg wrote:
Since a few of us here DJ at weddings, has anyone tried modern day custom edits for "Erotic City?" |
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I can email you mine if you want? All I did were the "f-bombs"; nothing else.
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JFive MusicFan
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I have a custom edit that follows the formula of the
edited (for length) version from 'The Hits/The B-Sides'.
It runs around 3:54 and has a WHACK sound in place of
the expletives. Funk and F--k are both removed, like the
Z100 edit. I made it BEFORE Sheila E put the uncertainty
regarding the lyrics to rest. She said that she says
FUNK, Prince says the F-word. No idea where "thoughts of
pretty you and me" came from. If anyone wants a copy of
this, let me know.
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aaronk Admin Group
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"Thoughts of pretty u and me" is a different line in the chorus. What Sheila E. is most likely referring to is that during the chorus she sings "we can funk," but during the third verse Prince sings this same line but uses the "f" word instead.
Edited by aaronk on 07 July 2016 at 10:59pm
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JFive MusicFan
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In more recent years, Prince had replaced the F word
with "love" in concerts on the rare occasions he
performed it. "Love so pretty u and me" is one of those
lines he replaced the original with. If it wasn't an
expletive from the get-go, he would've just left it as
"thoughts of pretty u and me". This has been a debate
for a while, but I was under the impression that this
was settled within the past 5-10 years.
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JL328 MusicFan
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JFive wrote:
I have a custom edit that follows the formula of the
edited (for length) version from 'The Hits/The B-Sides'.
It runs around 3:54 and has a WHACK sound in place of
the expletives. Funk and F--k are both removed, like the
Z100 edit. I made it BEFORE Sheila E put the uncertainty
regarding the lyrics to rest. She said that she says
FUNK, Prince says the F-word. No idea where "thoughts of
pretty you and me" came from. If anyone wants a copy of
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This post caught my eye. Just curious what
you mean when you say the version on "The Hits/The B Sides" was edited
for length. The version on that disc matches the version that was the B-
side to "Let's Go Crazy." Since this song was never on a parent album,
what version was the single version edited from? The 12 inch dance mix?
Edited by JL328 on 09 July 2016 at 4:07am
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aaronk Admin Group
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The single version on the 45 was edited from the 12" version.
Regarding the lyrics, I never heard about Prince changing the lyrics in
concert in recent years. It did prompt me to look for any videos of live
performances, and I stumbled upon this one by Sheila E:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfAXjoqDks
Don't know when it was filmed, but it looks like the '80s. The camera is
zoomed pretty close when she sings the chorus, and you can definitely
hear and see that she is not singing the F word in that line. To me, it
sounds like "thoughts of pretty u and me."
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JFive MusicFan
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Decent point, Aaron. Sheila E doesn't curse on any of
her records, if I recall. Other than the N word on one
of her songs, that is.
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