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Posted: 30 December 2011 at 8:29pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 for the stevie wonder song "higher ground"
issued as tamla 54235 states the run time on the label as
3:10 and does indeed run that length......the import 2 cd
set contains the 3:44 lp version while the USA counterpart
contains the 3:10 45 version.....another fyi for the board

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Is the single version an early fade or are there edit points?
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Posted: 24 October 2022 at 5:24pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

My notes indicate the 45 edits out a verse from 1:48 to 2:19 and fades earlier
than the LP.

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The database says Definitive Collection has the 3:10 45 version, and Number 1s has the 3:44 LP version.

The version on my copy of Definitive Collection seems to be the 45 version, fading out at 3:10, and the section from 1:48 to 2:19 is indeed missing (at 1:48 the lyric is "lovers" instead of "teachers").

My copy of Number 1s is a digital reissue. There, the song runs 3:45, but it's not the LP version. It has the same section cut out as on Definitive Collection, and instead of fading out by 3:10, the fade starts at 3:05 and the music goes on longer than the album version. Are the actual CDs this way too?
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It seems that the CD version of Number 1s has the same edit that's on the digital issue.

The LP version fades from 3:27 to 3:42, at which point the next song on Innervisions starts.

The Original Musiquarium collection from 1982 extends farther than anything previously released to that point, fading from 3:35 to 3:47.

But Number 1s goes way beyond those two versions (maybe to the end of the performance?) If you were to splice back in the 1:48-to-2:19 that's edited out of the 45, the version on Number 1's would fade from 3:35 to 4:16!

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crapfromthepast wrote:

But Number 1s goes way beyond those two versions
(maybe to the end of the performance?) If you were to
splice back in the 1:48-to-2:19 that's edited out of the
45, the version on Number 1's would fade from 3:35
to 4:16!

Wow, I would love a 4:16 version of "Higher Ground" !

Does anyone know if it exists anywhere on an import or
digital service?

Andy
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You'll have to edit together such a version yourself using the LP version from Innervisions and the "extended fade" single edit
off of Number 1s.

Edited by LunarLaugh on 26 October 2022 at 5:26pm


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Thanks Ron for letting us know about this extended single
mix. It was a compilation with an ugly cover that I didn't
give a second glance at. Even if I saw the timing, I would
have thought it was an early fade.
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Posted: 27 October 2022 at 5:37am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

LunarLaugh wrote:
You'll have to edit together such a
version yourself using the LP version from Innervisions and
the "extended fade" single edit
off of Number 1s.

Yeah, I feared that.

I'm good with editing, but I'm not excellent at inserting
passages with different EQs, different compression levels
and different peak limiting...

Andy
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I can probably make it happen if nobody has done so yet, but I don't have the #1s disc.

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Would be nice to see a proper CD reissue for Innervisions.
As I recall, all four singles had shorter 45 versions so
that would be the ideal place to gather them up.
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nlgbbbblth wrote:
Would be nice to see a proper CD
reissue for Innervisions.
As I recall, all four singles had shorter 45 versions so
that would be the ideal place to gather them up.

There were three singles issued in the U.S.

I noticed you are currently in Ireland; were there 4
singles released on 'Innervisions' over there?

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AndrewChouffi wrote:
nlgbbbblth wrote:
Would be nice
to see a proper CD
reissue for Innervisions.
As I recall, all four singles had shorter 45 versions so
that would be the ideal place to gather them up.

There were three singles issued in the U.S.

I noticed you are currently in Ireland; were there 4
singles released on 'Innervisions' over there?

Andy


Hi Andy
We (and the UK) got He's Misstra Know-It-All. The is an
edited version of 3:25 on the UK promo 7".
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nlgbbbblth wrote:

Hi Andy
We (and the UK) got He's Misstra Know-It-All. The is an
edited version of 3:25 on the UK promo 7".


Thanks Paul - yes, I forgot that was a big hit in some
other markets!

Andy

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