Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Chat Board
 Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Subject Topic: Barry White - Never Gonna Give Ya Up Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
aaronk
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6513
Posted: 09 December 2012 at 11:21am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just timed both sides of the promo 45 for "Never, Never Gonna Give Ya Up." The "Stereo Short Version" side has a printed time of 3:58, but it runs exactly 4:00. The "Stereo Long Version" side has a printed time of 4:44, but it runs 4:40.

Currently, CDs in the database that say "dj 45 edit" run :06 too long. Assuming that all of the 4:46 CDs contain the exact same version, the one and only edit is in the correct place, but the fade runs too long.

__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
Back to Top View aaronk's Profile Search for other posts by aaronk Visit aaronk's Homepage
 
edtop40
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 29 October 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4996
Posted: 06 January 2013 at 12:13pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 issued as 20th century 2058 states the
version as 'stereo short version' with a listed run time on
the label as 3:58 but actually runs 4:04.....the run out
groove info is 'M-2058-AS'.....the 45 is the same as the
'icon' and 'icon 2' cd version except that they run 0:05
short at 3:59.....

__________________
edtop40
Back to Top View edtop40's Profile Search for other posts by edtop40
 
edtop40
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 29 October 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4996
Posted: 06 January 2013 at 12:42pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

AARON wrote:
Switching topics to "Never, Never Gonna Give You Up"...

I have a CD claiming to have the promo 45 version of this
song which runs (3:59) (It's a custom edit that was given
to me.) It starts off with the high hat for five seconds
and then edits to where the version on All-Time Greatest
Hits
begins.

I did not check the edits further to see if it matches up
the rest of the way. Before I spend time doing that, let
me ask, do I have a bogus edit, or does the short promo
version differ from the commercial 45?

The database claims that ATGH has the 45 version but :09
longer. If the commercial 45 and short promo version are
identical, then one of the two versions I have is
incorrect.

Can anyone help me out?

Second, Jim says that the short promo and stock 45
versions of "Never, Never Gonna Give You Up" are the
same.
Given that information, I am happy to report that the
version on ATGH is NEITHER the 45 nor LP version,
as they clipped off the high hat on the intro. My custom
edit, without checking all the edit points,
appears to be correct.


above i grabbed a few comments from another barry white
thread where 'never, never gonna give you up' was
mentioned....jim and aaron are correct....the version on
'atgh' edits off the high hat intro for approximately
0:04.50....then the 'atgh' version is the same until the
3:55 mark where the 45 fades out while the 'atgh' cd
version continues.....so the correct vinyl 45 version can
be re-created by adding the high hat into from the so
called '45 version' in the db to the 'atgh' cd version
and then fading the 'atgh' version for 0:06 from 3:55 to
4:01 on the 'atgh' cd version....the vinyl 45 run time is
4:04....there is a slight pitch adjustment as well...

Edited by edtop40 on 06 January 2013 at 12:43pm


__________________
edtop40
Back to Top View edtop40's Profile Search for other posts by edtop40
 
Paul C
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 23 October 2006
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 789
Posted: 22 September 2018 at 10:16am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

The A-side of my U.S. commercial 45 (which is the 'stereo short version' side) runs 4:00. The matrix is 'M-2058-AS-2'. The final '2' suggests that this is a later pressing than Ed's 45.

My commercial 45 actually matches Aaron's description of the promo 45 (with the 'stereo long version' on the B-side). My 45 is definitely a commercial copy. The Record Research publications confirm that the commercial 45 also has the long version on the B-side.
Back to Top View Paul C's Profile Search for other posts by Paul C
 
davidclark
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 17 November 2004
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1100
Posted: 27 April 2023 at 8:54pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

According to 45cat, first issue 45s run 3:58 "Short Version" on one side and
4:44 "Long Version" on the other while second issue 45s run 3:58 on one side
and have an instrumental titled "No, I'm Never Gonna Give Ya Up" running
4:24 on the other (these are label times, not necessarily actual). AnotherProf
also has a 45 posted that DOES run 3:58 not 4:04. According to 45cat label
scans, this second issue 45 did not feature "Short Version" on the label, so
perhaps the second pressing DID run 3:58.

YoutTube link

Edited by davidclark on 27 April 2023 at 9:02pm


__________________
dc1
Back to Top View davidclark's Profile Search for other posts by davidclark
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.0527 seconds.