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Posted: 11 March 2006 at 9:54am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

has anyone tried to re-create the 45 versions from their cd counterparts...it looks like there are 3 songs which need to be done

shout it out loud
calling dr love
rocket ride

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Posted: 12 March 2006 at 7:18pm | IP Logged Quote Grant

Calling Dr. Love can't be done from existing CDs because thet parts aren't all there, likt the guitar solo.
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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 4:36pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

so what's the diff b/n the 45 and LP version of shout it out loud?

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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 8:16pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

Grant -- do you have a dub of the 45 version of "Calling Dr. Love" that I could listen to?

I forgot about a guitar solo difference, but I certainly remember the single having a 'tighter' intro.

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Posted: 15 May 2012 at 7:05pm | IP Logged Quote Tim Brown

Does anybody have a copy of the 45 version of Calling Dr.
Love? I was just wondering about the length of the intro
time.   

Thanks in advance for any help you can send my way.

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Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:03pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Tim Brown wrote:
Does anybody have a copy of the 45 version of Calling Dr.
Love? I was just wondering about the length of the intro
time.


Hi, Tim, and welcome to the board!

I just checked the mono side of my DJ 45, and the intro runs exactly eight seconds.
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Posted: 16 May 2012 at 4:05am | IP Logged Quote Tim Brown

"I just checked the mono side of my DJ 45, and the intro
runs exactly eight seconds."

Thanks so much!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 12:42am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just did a comparison between the LP version and 45 version, and the mixes are drastically different.

- lots of extra reverb on the cowbell
- drums mixed louder
- echoey electric guitar overdub at 0:12 of LP version removed on 45
- panning effect on chorus backup vocals on 45 ("doctor love" quickly pans back and forth between left and right channels)

The guitar solo sounds the same to me on both versions, though. Maybe this was not what the earlier post was referring to.

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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 5:34am | IP Logged Quote musicmanatl

This information is all so interesting and helpful. Does anyone have a time length for the single version of "Calling Dr. Love"?

Thanks,
Frank
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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 6:34am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

I believe the 45 of "Dr. Love" runs (3:07).

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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 7:07am | IP Logged Quote musicmanatl

I found what looks like the single edit on YouTube but it only runs 2:56. It fades out at the end though. Another random edit, perhaps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7__Gq-eWUw&feature=youtube_g data
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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 8:02am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Nope, that's not the single version. It's some weird edit of the LP version.

Edited by aaronk on 21 May 2012 at 8:02am


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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 8:47am | IP Logged Quote musicmanatl

Thanks, Aaron. I don't get why people make their own edits like this. So random and unhelpful. It's not even a good edit!

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Posted: 21 May 2012 at 9:21am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Well, there are a few CDs listed in the database that Pat has labeled as "neither the 45 nor LP version." For example, the "Double Platinum" CD has a version running (3:11). I highly doubt that the YouTube user created this version; they probably just dubbed it from one of the CDs that has a bogus edit.

The actual 45 run time is (3:03).

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Posted: 18 December 2012 at 10:26pm | IP Logged Quote boynamedfoo

Just listened to the new Casablanca Singles box set. And to my untrained ears it sounds right. From the cut & paste "Detroit Rock City" to the perfect cowbell of "Calling Dr. Love" to "Rocket Ride" & "I Was Made For Lovin' You" any experts able to clarify this before Pat gets it?
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I was recently updating my mp3 library for them - and a
couple of tracks i had to research in the database.
The first CD i sadly bought for their hits was "Smashes,
Thrashes & Hits" .. not the one you want to start with
for sure!   I got better ones later.
But some notations in the db i can add some info to:
"Hard Luck Woman" on Double Platinum is noted as "missing
a bass guitar overdub" .. as far as i can tell the bass
is present, but this is really a "remix". There is extra
reverb and the bass and drum come in at about :30 in the
middle of the first verse, instead of at :15 in the
original version.
Re: "Shout It Out Loud" on "Smashes" .. this is noted as
"neither..." which is correct, but i can add it's also a
"remix" It's noted as running 2:54, but actually runs
3:04.
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Speaking of the band Kiss there is a missing entry in the
database for the song "Forever" which does appear on the
Very Best Of disc but is not currently listed.

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Posted: 17 July 2013 at 12:53pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

boynamedfoo wrote:
Just listened to the new Casablanca Singles box set. And to my untrained ears it sounds right. From the cut & paste "Detroit Rock City" to the perfect cowbell of "Calling Dr. Love" to "Rocket Ride" & "I Was Made For Lovin' You" any experts able to clarify this before Pat gets it?
Has anyone else been able to confirm if this box set does indeed include the correct hit 45 versions?

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Santi, I do own the Kiss Casablanca Singles box set, but I am normally pretty
awful at detecting version differences. Please specify some exact song
titles, and I will then shoot them out to Aaron, for his expert analysis. Deal?

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Posted: 17 July 2013 at 2:29pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Okay Jim. Here's one that Aaron already is familiar
with. On "Calling Dr. Love" he wrote:
aaronk wrote:
I just did a comparison between the LP
version and 45 version, and the mixes are drastically
different.

- lots of extra reverb on the cowbell
- drums mixed louder
- echoey electric guitar overdub at 0:12 of LP version
removed on 45
- panning effect on chorus backup vocals on 45 ("doctor
love" quickly pans back and forth between left and right
channels)

The guitar solo sounds the same to me on both versions,
though. Maybe this was not what the earlier post was
referring to.

He also added the single version has an actual time of
(3:03).

Edited by Santi Paradoa on 17 July 2013 at 5:25pm


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