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sriv94
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Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:36pm \| IP Logged

Anybody know if REO Speedwagon's "Roll With The Changes" was issued as an edit version in its 1978 single release, or was it a straight reissue of the LP version? (My guess would be it was edited.)

Can someone also verify for me that the 1978 version of "Time For Me To Fly" was an edit, but the 1980 rerelease was the same as the LP?

The usual question also applies if they indeed were edits (makeable from the CD version, and all that).

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Posted: 10 April 2006 at 8:17pm \| IP Logged

that song didn't make the billboard top 40 so i can't help you on that one....

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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:15am \| IP Logged

Hey, good music is good music, regardless of whether it hit the upper reaches or lower reaches of the Hot 100.

(Insert gratuitous Ashlee Simpson joke here.)

Edited by sriv94 on 11 April 2006 at 9:16am

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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:25am \| IP Logged

LOL...........good one!!

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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 3:26pm \| IP Logged

I'm afraid I don't own either 45 myself, but as for "Time For Me To
Fly", there is a promo 45 for sale on eBay, with a photo, that shows
the listed time to be 2:58. Also, in his book on Top 100 Singles, Joel
Whitburn lists the 1980 version to be 3:39. Also, Mr. Whitburn lists
the single time for "Roll With The Changes" to be 3:49, so that would
appear to be an edit or early fade. Sorry I couldn't be more directly
helpful.

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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 2:10pm \| IP Logged

Sorry for reviving all these months-old threads, but hopefully the info I post is useful :)

I have a US promo single of "Roll With The Changes", and it's got a 2:50 edit (short version) on one side and the 3:49 edit (long version) on the other.

I agree with Doug - it's a good song and should have charted higher.

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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 2:16pm \| IP Logged

torcan wrote:

I have a US promo single of "Roll With The Changes", and it's got a 2:50 edit (short version) on one side and the 3:49 edit (long version) on the other.

Ian, are you familiar enough with the tune to know whether that (3:49) edit is a straight edit of the LP (and if so, where the edit points come in)? (Heck, might as well ask about the (2:50) version, too.)

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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 3:21pm \| IP Logged

sriv94 wrote:

I'll listen to them both and report back - give me a day or two.

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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 3:25pm \| IP Logged

All I can contribute here is I have two versions of "In My Dreams" on different compilation CD's.

I suspect one is the album version (4:31), it runs about nine seconds longer than the other one (4:22) which sounds like a remix, with some additional production on it.

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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 1:22pm \| IP Logged

sriv94 wrote:

Neither edit seems to be remixed - it all seems to be straight edits of the LP version. The 2:50 version has complete intro, complete first verse and chorus, complete second verse and chorus, then jumps to the "keep on rolling" part 3 times to the cold ending.

The 3:49 version has complete intro, complete first verse and chorus, complete second verse and chorus, then to "keep on rolling". After that, there's the first half of the keyboard solo, then an edit to the last half of the guitar solo, the "keep on rolling" twice to the cold end.

I hope my explanation is helpful :)

For the record, whenever I heard that song on the radio I always heard the full 5:35 album version (and still do to this day). I have it on the "Decade of Rock N Roll 1970-1980" album REO put out around the time of "Hi Infidelity". I actually had that 45 for a while but never got around to listening to the edits - until now! It's quite interesting to hear the different edits sent to radio.

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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 4:43pm \| IP Logged

Hmmmm--it didn't come out quite right for me for some reason (the DJ edit seemed a little awkward, and neither edit timed out properly).

There must be another edit somewhere near the beginning or middle. Using my The Hits CD as a guide, making no edits until halfway through the keyboard solo times out to (3:40.65). (I have an unsophisticated editing program called WavePad, which actually does the job pretty well for freeware.) That would only leave nine seconds to get everything else (guitar solo and reprise of the "keep on rolling" vocals) for the commercial 45.

Unless the (3:49) version isn't (3:49). . . (a printed label time different from the actual length? Never happens!) :-)

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sriv94 wrote:

There must be another edit somewhere near the beginning or middle. Using my The Hits CD as a guide, making no edits until halfway through the keyboard solo times out to (3:40.65).

After the second verse and chorus, there's an instrumental passage and then a repeat of the chorus before you get to the "keep on rolling" part. You have to take that out.

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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 7:13am \| IP Logged

You're right--I forgot about the small instrumental break and reprise of the "if you're tired of the same old story" chorus. It would seem to me, though, that the edit would be made at a point somewhere within the second chorus, to provide a smooth transition to the "keep on rolling" part.

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Posted: 12 June 2014 at 3:02pm \| IP Logged

elcoleccionista wrote:

I've finally been able to confirm that the difference bewteen the 45 and LP versions of "In My Dreams" is not just length. For example, on the instrumental intros the point at which the keyboard comes in differs.

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