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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 02 January 2017 at 9:10am | IP Logged
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I own both promo & stock 45 copies for this song, confirmed as Atlantic
2580. Both are styrene, mono, and both have listed times of (2:28). My
promo 45's actual time is also (2:28), with handwritten deadwax of "A-
15293 -21". My stock 45's actual time is a second shorter, at (2:27), with
machine-stamped deadwax of "A-15293-1A CP".
I only post this info because all of the many stereo CD appearances for this
song run slightly shorter, at between (2:23) and (2:26). Unfortunately, the
only place where the full (2:28) 45 version exists in mono on a domestic CD
is on a pricey, Rhino "Respect: A Century Of Woman" box set.
Edited by jimct on 02 January 2017 at 5:33pm
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 02 January 2017 at 2:11pm | IP Logged
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Just gave a listen to my stereo promo of SoaPM, listed
time 2:28, actual 2:24. It's vinyl, handwritten deadwax
info: ST-A-15293 -.
I also have a mono promo of this, but it appears to be
misfiled.
Both promos have the same B side as the stock "Just A
Little Lovin'".
Curiously Jim, does your promo have a black & white label
or the red and white one? Don't think I've ever seen a
red/white Atlantic promo on styrene.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 02 January 2017 at 5:41pm | IP Logged
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Black & white label on my promo 45, Steve.
You also appear to me to own a highly impressive, second-to-none
collection of late 60's stereo Atlantic promo 45s. I could swear that
"...Preacher Man" is at least the 3rd or 4th different time, over the years, that
you've been kind enough to provide such rare stereo promo 45 details for
us, that I'd not ever stumbled upon. Many thanks!
Edited by jimct on 02 January 2017 at 5:42pm
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Posted: 02 January 2017 at 7:34pm | IP Logged
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I recall reading a comment William Brown made some years ago on another forum about "Son-Of-A Preacher Man." He'd claimed that the Columbia Pitman-pressed styrene 45 (the "CP" one Jim mentioned) sounds markedly better than the other Atlantic pressings (Specialty/Plastic Products/Monarch) because Columbia utilized a higher-quality cutting head than the one in use at Atlantic Studios. While I've never compared my CP and Plastic Products stock pressings to see if that's true, Columbia did do its own mastering for the Pitman pressing of the title.
I have a couple of other stray Columbia Pitman-pressed Atlantic stocks from that era, although they rarely showed up in the middle of the country (Aretha Franklin's "Think," being one, and likewise a Columbia mastering job.) I also have a CP stock of Magic Lantern's "Shame, Shame," but that one utilized metal parts sourced from the same Atlantic Studios cutting as my Plastic Products stock pressings.
Pitman-pressed Atlantic stocks can be readily identified by their "A" catalog number prefix (A-2580, as opposed to the usual 45-2580 found on the non-Columbia SoaPM pressings.) Pitman was used only occasionally for Atlantic contract pressings for a couple of years. I've never seen a Columbia Terre Haute-pressed Atlantic single.
Steve, there were red-and-white Atlantic Monarch promo 45 styrene pressings; 45cat shows one on the November, 1970 Dusty Springfield "What Good Is I Love You" promo 45. Of the three main Atlantic plants, Monarch promos are likely to be the least common, as there were fewer radio stations in the western region of the U.S. Monarch would have covered. Reporting stations in the region likely would have received their main promo 45 mailings from Specialty's Olyphant plant, as was the case in the central region.
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