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I have a question about notation in the database regarding some of Aretha Franklin's early Atlantic hits, including "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman."
I assume that most (all?) of the early Atlantic hits had dedicated mono mixes, which were specifically mixed for mono and weren't fold-downs of a stereo mix. I also assume that the early Atlantic 45s all included the mono mixes. (Let me know if either of those two assumptions is wrong.)
I noticed that for "I Never Loved A Man (The Way I Love You)," "Respect," and "Baby I Love You," the database uses notation of stereo (S) or mono (M), and nothing further.
I also noticed that for "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman," the stereo (S) tracks are also given a notation of "LP version" and the mono (M) tracks are given a notation of "45 version."
Is the convention of stereo = LP and mono = 45 true for the earlier singles, too? What was on the mono versions of the LP (e.g., dedicated mono mixes? same mono mixes as the 45s? fold-downs of the stereo?)
I'm just wondering if the labeling in the database needs any clarification beyond just (S) and (M), since I believe that the songs were mixed just once in mono, and just once in stereo.
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I did test a few of the early hits and I found a few
are fold-downs and others have mix differences that
determine the "LP Version" notation.
For example, "Respect" you can fold-down and basically
get the mono 45 version. But if i recall right, on
"Natural Woman" the LP version has some backing vocals
potted up that were mixed down in the mono 45.
I'm sure all the mono singles were dedicated mixes,
but if Pat has no notation it means nothing particular
stands out as being different in the M/S versions.
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"Natural Woman" in mono (available on Time-Life/Rhino's
"Solid Gold Soul: Deep Soul" as mastered by Dennis Drake)
has less emphasis on the horn overdubs in the chorus.
This is one of several original stereo mixes I actually
prefer to the "hit" mono mix. I think the mono mix, while
it has the typical punchy mono drum track, tends to sound
more like a demo while the stereo mix gives you more
insight to the fully realized arrangements and sounds
like a fleshed-out production.
Edited by LunarLaugh on 13 February 2020 at 3:53pm
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Is this song "A Natural Woman (You Make Me Feel Like)"
or "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman"? I have
seen different 45s online which show either title.
Edited by Scanner on 07 May 2020 at 7:01am
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Scanner wrote:
Is this song "A Natural Woman (You Make Me Feel Like)"
or "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman"? I have
seen different 45s online which show either title. |
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According to a note on 45cat.com, "Later pressings would correct the A side title order to '(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman'."
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Thanks. At least that would be consistent with how it
is printed on the "Lady Soul" album art and record
label.
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