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EternalStatic
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Does anyone have details or edit points available for the on the "Short" promo edit found on the 1985 promo 45? I have read that the actual time is about 4:00, which doesn't match up with the version used in the video. I found one 4:00 version buried on YouTube, and it sounds like a fake to me. Thanks for any assistance!
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Hi Eric,
I have a dub of the short promo version. I did a quick
recreation and it runs 4:00. I sent the file to you for
analysis, though I named the file by the Zombies by
mistake lol, not the Hooters.
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Hi John! Thanks a ton for sending. I have listened to the 4-minute
"Short" version and studied it, and I am so glad to be able to put this
one to bed in my mind.
I'm sure everyone has heard the really well done 4:24-ish edit from the
music video. Well, the promo 45 edit is that edit, but with one
additional, kind of abrupt cut at about 18 seconds in that edits out even
more of the vamping and build-up on the intro. It's one of those edits
that no matter how carefully it's made, it just really takes you out of the
moment on playback, largely because of the change in instrumentation
at the edit point. Pretty wild.
After listening, I can see why the long version is the one the band
appears to prefer. It's a shame that the label didn't use the Video Edit
on the promo 45, though, because it's a more natural edit on its own,
and given how often labels lied about the runtime on their promos, they
could have printed 4:00 on the label and no one would have batted an
eye.
Edited by EternalStatic on 03 May 2020 at 7:16pm
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Just a quick aside...
I loved "All You Zombies" from the moment I first heard
it. I was really hoping it would at least crack the Top
40, but it wasn't meant to be. I saw the Hooters 3-4
times live as an opening act and "All You Zombies" always
brought the house down.
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Hi Paul! It's a really unique-sounding song, isn't it? It is very identifiably "eighties" without being riddled with the typical clichés of that era. I hate that it missed the Top 40, but its #3 Mainstream Rock peak is nothing to sneeze at. Interestingly enough, I definitely hear this one more often than their 2nd Top 40 hit, "Day By Day", though not nearly as often as "And We Danced". It blows my mind that "Day By Day" had the highest Hot 100 peak of all 3 of those. Though it only bested "And We Danced" by 3 notches, it's the only one that can claim the title of "Top 20 hit".
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Paul Haney
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Yep, the only Hooters hit I still hear on the radio is
"And We Danced." It peaked at #21 in Radio & Records
("Day By Day" peaked at #22). I also enjoyed their 1987
hits "Johnny B" and "Satellite" (both of which peaked at
#61 on the Hot 100). I played the heck out of them at my
college radio station, so there's that!
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EternalStatic
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Oh great — just when I had a clear understanding of which one was
their “bigger” pop hit, here comes Radio & Records to unravel my
beliefs, haha... They’re pretty close, aren’t they?
“Satellite” is definitely underrated any way you look at it.
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This thread made me go listen to "All You Zombies"
because while I saw the title many times in stores
back then, I couldn't recall hearing it in the 80s. I
have to agree this is an amazing song! It's going in
my 80s playlist right away.
Side note: I'm sure this is old news for most of you
but for years I wondered who the male vocal was on
Cyndi Lauper's classic "Time After Time." The album
credits wouldn't say. When the internet arrived I
finally googled it one day and I read the song was co-
written by Rob Hyman of the Hooters and it clicked!
AH! It's HIM...that's his voice! At last question
answered. Of course all this is in Wikipedia now but
back then it was a total mystery to me.
BTW, for all the Hooters success here and in Europe, I
can guarantee that "Time After Time" is the song that
has made Rob Hyman very well-off. The annual
publishing royalties would be staggering, since the
song is still on the radio every day in every market
world-wide to this very day.
MM
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Good stuff, Mark!
Yes, us old school Hooters fans always knew about the
connection to Cyndi Lauper. In fact, the Hooters used to
perform "Time After Time" in their live shows.
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As a point of reference, the Columbia version of "All You
Zombies" was the third time the Hooters recorded it. The
first was a live version thst appeared on their second
indie-label 45 (Eighty Percent HOO 82). The second was as
an album cut on the eight-song LP Amore (Antenna
HOO 83).
The Hooters would re-record four of the eight songs from
their indie album when they signed to Columbia. For "All
You Zombies," the third time was the charm as far as I'm
concerned. As for the other three, I prefer the indie
versions of "Hanging on a Heartbeat," "Blood from a
Stone," and especially "Fightin' on the Same Side" (the
Columbia version of the latter is basically a different
song with the same title and chorus).
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