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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 08 November 2020 at 11:34pm | IP Logged
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I thought this was an interesting enough article that it should be posted here. Especially now that about 60 percent of the Hot 100 and numerous album bombs are explicit these days, with the clean versions being digitally available.
It is a good read and worth some discussion here...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/arts/music/clean-versions -explicit-songs.html?code=NzNjYWQ2NDItNjg1Yy00YmY4LWI4OTAtMD Y5YjMxM2UzYTRk&state=no-state
While I know Pat doesn't generally want this to be an opinion board, it is hard to ignore the impact that censoring the music has had in the last 30 plus years.
Edited by PopArchivist on 08 November 2020 at 11:37pm
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 7:04am | IP Logged
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Interesting article, but it left unanswered one
question...why do artists seem to feel the need to
record explicit songs in the first place? Now I'm not
the hippest guy in the world (and never was), but this
seems self-defeating. Am I missing something?
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 8:21am | IP Logged
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Hykker wrote:
Interesting article, but it left unanswered one
question...why do artists seem to feel the need to
record explicit songs in the first place? Now I'm not
the hippest guy in the world (and never was), but this
seems self-defeating. Am I missing something?
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The answer is sales. When I see the dirty versions side-by-side with the clean versions on iTunes, the dirty versions are always way ahead of the clean versions, and it's not even close. The article was pointing out that there is a market for the clean versions, mostly radio airplay.
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 9:11am | IP Logged
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Paul Haney wrote:
The article was pointing out that there is a market for the clean versions, mostly radio airplay. |
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What's fascinating is what I have touched on in these discussions is mentioned in the article. Some artists simply release an explicit album with no clean versions at all. Unless radio stations do their own custom edits there is no way to play the explicits on the radio.
Paul is right the explicit versions outsell the clean one's. It is amazing the NOW series still exists at all with its clean versions on CD....
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 2:13pm | IP Logged
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Paul Haney wrote:
The answer is sales. When I see the
dirty versions side-by-side with the clean versions on
iTunes, the dirty versions are always way ahead of the
clean versions, and it's not even close. The article
was pointing out that there is a market for the clean
versions, mostly radio airplay. |
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Interesting, I came away with the opposite impression
from the article.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 3:22pm | IP Logged
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As a full-time wedding and event DJ, I've prided myself for
over 25 years in being able to subscribe to music services
for DJ's that have the radio edits and clean versions. Over
the years, people have mentioned to me that they have
attended weddings where the hobbyist DJ plays uncensored
music with all ages in attendance. I can't remember ever
playing an uncensored version myself. I'm glad there are
still clean versions available even digitally.
__________________ John Gallagher
John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment
Snapblast Photo Booth
Erie, PA
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