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davidclark MusicFan
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Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:38am | IP Logged
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I'm looking to make the 45 speed of "There's A Kind Of Hush (All Over The World)". Does anyone have a 45 I could use as a reference? My Pop Annual states a run time of 2:53. If I use the version on "Yesterday Once More" and speed it up to 2:53, do I have the 45?
Any help much appreciated...don't know why I'm all of a sudden in to Carpenters 45 versions...oh! maybe because they are not that easy to come by!
thanks.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Don't know about the 45 speed, but everyone might like to know about a new import compilation Collector's Choice Music is selling, with the original LP mixes of all the songs, not the late '80s remixes. It's been issued "with Richard Carpenter's blessing," they say.
I'm sure you can get it elsewhere on the Net, but that's where I first heard about it.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Posted: 30 July 2006 at 9:23pm | IP Logged
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It's called Carpenters Ultimate Collection, a 3-disc set. This is it:
http://www.ccmusic.com/item.cfm?itemid=SMG358452
But it's $10 cheaper on CD Universe.
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Roscoe MusicFan
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:18pm | IP Logged
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davidclark wrote:
I'm looking to make the 45 speed of "There's A Kind Of Hush (All Over The World)". Does anyone have a 45 I could use as a reference? My Pop Annual states a run time of 2:53. If I use the version on "Yesterday Once More" and speed it up to 2:53, do I have the 45?
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Yes, there are no other differences between the 45 and the LP version other than the speed. Just speed up the LP version by approximately 2.25% and you have it.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 07 August 2006 at 10:28pm | IP Logged
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Brian W. wrote:
It's called Carpenters Ultimate Collection, a 3-disc set. This is it:
http://www.ccmusic.com/item.cfm?itemid=SMG358452
But it's $10 cheaper on CD Universe.
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Great find, Brian! With the ridiculous number of Carpenters best-of packages that have flooded the market over the years, it's about time one finally comes out containing every Top 40 hit in their original mixes! I have long been frustrated over how Richard Carpenter constantly messes with the songs by remixing them, re-recording instruments, or dubbing in additional instrumentation. He also has a highly annoying tendency to fade and segue songs into each other, rather than keeping them separate and distinct.
That said, do any of the tracks on the Carpenters' Ultimate import compilation track into one another? I would love to finally have the original mix of "Superstar" on CD without it seguing or tracking into another song on the disc.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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does anyone own this cd yet???....can anyone confirm the running times of each track???
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davidclark MusicFan
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:06am | IP Logged
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many of the Carpenters singles in their original mixes can be found on the remastered releases of their original LPs. "Superstar" on "Carpenters" is one of them.
"Ticket To Ride" is in its 1969 mix on "Offering/Ticket To Ride", however its the LP version (not the single).
And thanks Roscoe for the info on "There's A Kind Of Hush".
Edited by davidclark on 08 August 2006 at 7:09am
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Roscoe MusicFan
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davidclark wrote:
many of the Carpenters singles in their original mixes can be found on the remastered releases of their original LPs. "Superstar" on "Carpenters" is one of them.
"Ticket To Ride" is in its 1969 mix on "Offering/Ticket To Ride", however its the LP version (not the single).
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Yes, I ended up purchasing all the "Remastered Classics" albums a few years ago just to obtain the original mixes. It's good to know there's now a less expensive option to get the hits in their original mixes.
Unfortunately, a few 45 mixes have still not shown up on CD, specifically "Please Mr. Postman" and "Calling Occupants".
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davidclark MusicFan
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Roscoe,
Please Mr. Postman has a unique 45 mix? I am not aware, neither is Pat as there's no mention of the existing versions being LP mix.
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Roscoe MusicFan
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 12:20pm | IP Logged
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davidclark wrote:
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Please Mr. Postman has a unique 45 mix? I am not aware, neither is Pat as there's no mention of the existing versions being LP mix. |
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The 45 is not radically different (I don't think there's any different instrumentation). But the balance of instruments and vocals is audibly different on the 45 version than the LP. Since the 45 mix does not involve any differences in vocals or instrumentation, it probably does not qualify for a unique version designation under Pat's criteria.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 9:56pm | IP Logged
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davidclark wrote:
many of the Carpenters singles in their original mixes can be found on the remastered releases of their original LPs. "Superstar" on "Carpenters" is one of them.
"Ticket To Ride" is in its 1969 mix on "Offering/Ticket To Ride", however its the LP version (not the single).
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Correct, David... I have several of the Carpenters' remastered CD releases of their original LPs. What I'm wondering though is if "Superstar" appears as its own separate and distinct track on the new Ultimate Collection 3-CD import set, or does it "bleed" into the songs that come before or after it like on many other CD releases? I don't think I've ever come across the original mix of "Superstar" on CD where it doesn't track into other selections on the disc. I'd like to have the original mixes of all of the Carpenters's hits where they don't track into other selections. That said, can anyone tell me if this Ultimate Collection set fits the bill?
Edited by Todd Ireland on 09 August 2006 at 9:58pm
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