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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 31 January 2007 at 11:28am | IP Logged
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I only own a "mono on both sides" promo 45 for this. Like my Whitburn book states for the commercial 45, my promo also shows a listed run time of (2:56) for both sides, and actually runs a second shorter, at (2:55), for both sides. However, all 7 current database CDs for this run between (3:12) and (3:14), so Pat will no doubt have to run this one through his "spectrum analyzer" for a proper conclusion.
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:02pm | IP Logged
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The actual LP running time is (3:13) and it actually is a "version" and not a "length".
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:05pm | IP Logged
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Nice detective work, Jim and Pat! Now can anyone confirm the commercial 45 run time for "Mighty Clouds of Joy"?
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Posted: 19 June 2012 at 8:25pm | IP Logged
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After reviewing the new cd "The Complete Scepter Singles", I had to pull out all of my B.J. Thomas 45's to verify that the correct 45 masters were used for this cd and I discovered that I can no longer detect a difference (other than mono vs stereo mixing) between the 45 of "Mighty Clouds Of Joy" and the LP so I may have to retract my statement above on there being an actual version difference. Can anyone else detect a difference between the 45 and LP appearance of Mighty Clouds Of Joy?
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Indy500 MusicFan
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Where do we stand on this song? Other mono versions in the database?
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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Posted: 02 October 2012 at 7:45pm | IP Logged
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I was sent a dub of the mono single and was able to determine that the mono single features the piano hotter. It can be heard upfront for longer periods of time than the stereo mix (on the stereo mix during the refrain the piano drops down to a very low level into the mix, barely noticable but still there. On the mono mix you can hear the piano at a higher level all into the "Hallelujah part of the refrain) Also the piano remains louder near the end of the song. I don't think the real mono mix has ever been issued on CD.
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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Posted: 11 December 2012 at 4:59pm | IP Logged
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Pat I think you had it right the first time, I think there is a single "version". I picked up the stock 45 an at least on the copy I have there is a noticable splice at 1:43 which cuts out one of the refrains, probably to make the end of the song sound stronger.
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Indy500 MusicFan
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Posted: 08 January 2013 at 4:12pm | IP Logged
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There is an edit on my Scepter Records SCE 12320 45. It is from 1:43 to 2:14 of the lp version. Running time is 2:50 but has the 2:56 listed time.
The fade on the "The Complete Scepter Singles" is 8 seconds sooner than the fade on my 45.
Edited by Indy500 on 08 January 2013 at 4:42pm
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Indy500 MusicFan
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I miss-timed the length of the 45. It is 2:56 with the last 5 seconds barely audible on my crackly 45. But no mistaking the edit.
Edited by Indy500 on 08 January 2013 at 5:09pm
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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That Real Gone set should be re-titled the Incomplete
Scepter Singles instead (what a joke).
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 20 July 2014 at 5:14pm | IP Logged
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so can the 45 version be edited from the lp version....it
sound to me like the vinyl 45, when edited, runs longer
than the cd version...
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