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Although there's no notes in the database on this one, the song "I Love Your Smile" by Shanice has been issued on several formats in a 3:46 "Radio Version." I have this version on a TM Century disc, so I'm pretty certain it's on the promo single. Additionally, I've seen it on both domestic and import CD and vinyl singles.
I see that the US maxi single (Motown 860 003) contains the "Driza Bone Single Remix" as the lead track with the "Original Single Version" as cut 4. I have also come across a listing for a 7" vinyl single (Motown 860 002) with the "Driza Bone Single Remix" as the A-side and "Original Single Version" as the B-side.
Is there another US single format that contains the LP version? That would explain why there is not an "LP version" designator next to the CDs in the database.
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The cassette single is the LP version. Since I was positive my vinyl 45 was also the LP version, I dug it out and noticed for the first time that, although it is the LP version, it is actually the B side of "I'm Cryin'" (Motown 374632163-7).
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Aaron:
Just noticed this myself tonight. I also have the 3:46 version, yet there is no mention of it in the database.
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My promo CD single (PCD1000) contains the following:
1-Radio Edit (listed & actual 3:46)
2-LP Version (listed 4:14; actual 4:17)
3-Instrumental (listed 4:14; actual 4:17)
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To recreate the 3:46 Radio Edit from the 4:16 LP version:
Keep 00:00 - 2:16:891 of the LP version
Cut at 2:16:891 just before she says 'dig it' to 2:47:699
Keep 2:47:699 to 4:16
Your resulting edit should be 3:46.
Edited by eriejwg on 13 November 2007 at 1:14pm
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eriejwg wrote:
To recreate the 3:46 Radio Edit from the 4:16 LP version:
Keep 00:00 - 2:16:891 of the LP version
Cut at 2:16:891 just before she says 'dig it' to 2:47:699
Keep 2:47:699 to 4:16
Your resulting edit should be 3:46. |
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I noticed on the LP version on Hitsville USA Vol. II, there's a vintage scratchy-vinyl sound over the 15-second intro to the song. I don't hear the scratchy vinyl effect on either the radio edit (on my Top Hits USA RH10 CD) or on the Driza Bone Remix (on UK's Now 21 and Now 1992).
I also noticed there's a little giggle at 2:54 on the LP version, which is absent from the radio edit at corresponding point at 2:18.
Because of these mix differences (and there may be others - I wasn't all that rigorous), it looks like you can't recreate the radio edit from the LP version.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 07 September 2008 at 11:21am
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I noticed on the LP version on Hitsville USA Vol. II, there's a vintage scratchy-vinyl sound over the 15-second intro to the song. |
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Although the "vintage scratchy-vinyl sound" appears on the Hitsville USA Vol. II set, it does not appear on my copy of the Inner Child CD (which is a Canadian pressing). It also does not appear on my U.S. cassette single. So it appears that the CD/LP version is the same as the single version, but the Hitsville USA Vol. II version is not.
I must also correct something I stated above. The version of "I Love Your Smile" on the B-side of the 7-inch single of "I'm Cryin'" states it is the "LP version", but it is actually "Hakeem's Mix" which appears as a bonus track on the CD and cassette versions of the Inner Child album.
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We can now add "Hakeem's Mix" as an official promo CD single mix. I just obtained a very rare remix promo single for "I Love Your Smile." Here are the details:
Motown PCD1009
1. Hak's Radio Edit (listed 3:57; actual 3:51)
2. LP Version (listed & actual 4:18)
3. Hak's Remix (listed 4:18; actual 4:12)
4. Hak's Instrumental (listed 4:18; actual 4:11)
For what it's worth, track 2 does not have scratchy vinyl sound effects on the intro.
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Pat, you may want to add "I Love Your Smile" (Hakeem's Mix) to the database on the CD Inner Child. I noticed there's not an entry for it.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I noticed on the LP version
on Hitsville USA Vol. II, there's a vintage
scratchy-vinyl sound over the 15-second intro to the
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I was jogging this past week, and this song from
Hitsville USA Vol. II played on my headphones.
The vinyl noise is actually throughout the entire
song, especially notable during quieter passages like
the opening. I strongly suspect this song is mastered
from vinyl on this box, which blows my mind a bit...
Edited by lbangs on 19 August 2021 at 1:10pm
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I don't think that's the case, as that surface noise
sounds like a sample laid atop the music (and it's totally
absent from the cold ending/laughing).
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I agree that it's a sound effect added on top of the track. Here's another way you can tell they are sound effects: the vinyl crackle is totally mono while the track is stereo. If you invert one of the channels and then sum them together, the crackle totally disappears, leaving only the stereo (non-center) information.
Edited by aaronk on 19 August 2021 at 8:45pm
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crapfromthepast wrote:
eriejwg wrote:
To recreate the 3:46 Radio Edit from the 4:16 LP version:
Keep 00:00 - 2:16:891 of the LP version
Cut at 2:16:891 just before she says 'dig it' to 2:47:699
Keep 2:47:699 to 4:16
Your resulting edit should be 3:46. |
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I noticed on the LP version on Hitsville USA Vol. II, there's a vintage scratchy-vinyl sound over the 15-second intro to the song. I don't hear the scratchy vinyl effect on either the radio edit (on my Top Hits USA RH10 CD) or on the Driza Bone Remix (on UK's Now 21 and Now 1992).
I also noticed there's a little giggle at 2:54 on the LP version, which is absent from the radio edit at corresponding point at 2:18.
Because of these mix differences (and there may be others - I wasn't all that rigorous), it looks like you can't recreate the radio edit from the LP version. |
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Although it was later established that there are no vinyl noise sound effects on Inner Child you still would not be able to create the Radio Edit from the LP Version. At the edit point described above, Shanice's "you dig" in the LP Version overlaps part of the music that would need to be kept. There's also some laughter over the first notes of the horn solo on the LP Version which have been removed from the mix on the Radio Edit, which Ron pointed out over a decade ago.
Edited by aaronk on 19 August 2021 at 8:52pm
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I love this forum because everybody knows more than I
and is kind about my ignorance.
Yeah, it not only does sound like an obvious sample,
but it being mono seems to prove it is intentional.
I'm surprised they ran it through nearly the entire
track, even into quieter sections near the end, but...
So much to learn! Thanks!
Edited by lbangs on 20 August 2021 at 5:16am
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