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Todd Ireland
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Pat:
The LP version of Donny Osmond's "Sacred Emotion" runs 5:11. However, the song is shown in the database with a run time of only 4:57 on the The All-Time Greatest Hits of the Osmond Family (Box Set) and it too contains the comment: "LP version". I suspect the latter is actually the LP version faded :14 early. If this is the case, the database should probably be updated to indicate this.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 11 March 2007 at 10:50pm
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Well, if you chop off the organ intro of the LP version, you get (4:57), so perhaps that's what they did on the box set.
The 45 version, incidentally, cannot be edited from the LP version. At (3:39) of the 45, there is a place where Donny's ad libbed vocals were briefly removed to make the edit sound smooth.
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Good point, Aaron. Pat, could you please check the Osmond Family box set and see if "Sacred Emotion" contains the organ intro?
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Hi Aaron,
I kinda beg to differ with you.
I believe the 45 can be created from the LP version because the 45 employed out-of-sequence edits!
Its really effective handiwork on whomever edited the single.
P.S. Does anyone agree with me that "Sacred Emotion" is Donny Osmond's BEST single?
Andy
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
P.S. Does anyone agree with me that "Sacred Emotion" is Donny Osmond's BEST single?
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Not really fair to compare it with his 70s stuff that was pre-teen oriented.
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Hykker,
I hear ya, but keep in mind I grew up along with the Osmonds (was 10 years old when "One Bad Apple" came out and bought the 45) so I liked them then, too.
When Donny came out of hiding with "Soldier Of Love" and then followed it up with "Sacred Emotion" I declared "Sacred" his ALL-TIME best single.
The quality of the record, of course, has a little to do with producer/songwriters Carl Sturken & Evan Rogers who are still having hits today...
Andy
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The version of "Sacred Emotion" on the Osmond Family Box Set has the organ introduction. The ending is what was faded early to get the (4:57) time.
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Thanks, Pat.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
| I believe the 45 can be created from the LP version because the 45 employed out-of-sequence edits! |
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Andy, you are absolutely correct about the out-of-sequence edits. I was able to find all the necessary parts for the entire 45 version, except there is about a 1.5 second section that I could not find anywhere in the song. This is the part above that I mentioned. If you can figure out how to do it, please post where you found the mystery audio.
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Hi Aaron,
I did it awhile back, so I don't remember exactly where the "mystery section" came from; I seem to recall I created it from a sharp crossfade from the drum/acappela break into the second(?) chorus and any vocal trail is obfuscated.
It sounds pretty darn close; PM me if you want to hear it (assuming you don't have a promo CD, which I don't).
Andy
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Andy, I would love to hear your creation. And no, I have never found it on promo CD, nor has our resident promo CD guru, jimct.
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Really??
You mean TMCentury/JonesTM HitDisc/GoldDisc library has it from vinyl? Or is it one of those recreated edits?
Anybody know?
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At the time this was issued on HitDisc (May 1989), there were still a handful of tracks that were dubbed from vinyl. While they mainly used promo CDs as sources for those discs, some of them did come from 45s. I cannot say for sure on disc 790A, because I don't own it, but I'd be willing to bet it was from vinyl. Of course, there may be a promo CD for that song, but I've never seen it.
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Hmmm... I wonder if the 45 version was ever released on an import CD single?
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Speaking of which... The actual commercial 45 run time of Donny Osmond's "Sacred Emotions" is 4:14. (Run time info supplied by abagon. The 45 label states "Edit" with a printed time of 4:15.) The reason I post this is because the lone database CD appearance sporting the "45 version" comment runs only 4:11.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 11 October 2008 at 5:12pm
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I have the 45 version on a collection called "25 Hits" and it also runs 4:11.
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my commercial cassingle issued as capitol 44379 does NOT state a version or run time but does run 4:14.....it is identical (as far as i can tell) to the version listed below EXCEPT that the cd version below fadeds out about 0:03 prematurely.....
(S) (4:11) Starland Music/Warner Special Products OPCD-4548 Starland Music Presents Lost In Love (45 version)
question is....can we tag on the extra 0:03 to this version from one of the other listed version to properly re-create the true 45/single version.....
aaron, paul, john????
i just fixed my post!!....cassingle runs 4:14 and NOT 4:11
Edited by edtop40 on 12 October 2008 at 10:59am
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Ed,
Tookm your advice and pasted in the fade from the LP. As is, runs about 4:16. So, obviously a fade is needed to bring it to 4:14. I'll send a file to you for observation.
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Andy, you are absolutely correct about the out-of-sequence edits. I was able to find all the necessary parts for the entire 45 version, except there is about a 1.5 second section that I could not find anywhere in the song. This is the part above that I mentioned. If you can figure out how to do it, please post where you found the mystery audio.
aaron...where is the missing parts you reference on the starland cd??
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Ed, there shouldn't be any missing parts on the Starland CD. My post above was regarding the LP version; you cannot create the 45 version from the LP.
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