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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Posted: 21 March 2007 at 11:39pm | IP Logged
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I have two friends who grew up in Huntington Beach, California who are trying to find a version of Under The Boardwalk that is apparently neither the common stereo version nor the version found on my mono 45.
They've both told me that the version they often heard on the radio in the 60's through the 70s was this way:
"we'll be falling in love" each time except the very end where it says "we'll be making love".
The mono 45 that I have has "falling in love" throughout the entire song. The stereo version I have in mp3 form has "We'll be making love" every time except the end where it says "we'll be falling in love", and it seems that my friends are looking for literally the exact opposite version of the song lyrically than the stereo version.
Does anyone else out there know of this version, or if it exists anywhere? My friends both remember it very clearly, and they think maybe it could've been a promo 45 thing or just something for the LA market....any help at all would be appreciated.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 8:16pm | IP Logged
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Could it be that your friends are mistaken?
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 10:24pm | IP Logged
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That's what I'm thinking, to be honest, but they each remembered it the same when each was asked differently. My first friend asked me if I had heard of it, I said no, then I asked her brother to try to remember how he heard the song and he described it the exact same way without having been talking to his sister about it. I'm wondering if they're either totally nuts, or if some SoCal station had a special version, maybe a self-edited version of it...
I asked my one friend what stations she might have heard this version on, and she told me: KHJ, or KRLA or KFWB.
So maybe someone here either did, or knows someone who did DJ'ing sometime in the 60s or 70s in these stations that played the song and may remember the version I'm looking for.
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 23 March 2007 at 10:50pm
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 2:38pm | IP Logged
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The power of suggestion can be strong.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 29 December 2016 at 10:24am | IP Logged
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Both my stock and promo 45s, each confirmed as Atlantic 2237, feature
the "we'll be falling in love" line *all* three times it appears during the
song. No "making love" lyric at all, found on either copy.
Both my copies have listed and actual times of (2:40). My stock 45's
deadwax info is a handwritten "A-7922-2", while my promo 45's deadwax
info is a handwritten "A-7922-4".
All I can say as to exactly what lyrics those folks might've heard back in
the day is that anything is possible. I do know that most Top 40 stations
had frequent turnover as to personnel. And I found very few
"musicolgoists" who were also DJs. And while these stations almost always
had *some* sort of Music LIbrary at their disposal, there were usually
many, many "holes" present, meaning that there were no remaining copies
of many, many of the most popular golden oldies. Current station
personnel would then often set up a "trade" account with a local mom-
and-pop music store, and then go grab a pretty fair amount of
"supergroup" Greatest Hits LPs and reprint 45s, in exchange for "X"
amount of commercial spots for the shop. Also, as a reporting station to
the trade mags, we also were able to request from the labels periodic
"Care Packages" of their top catalog sellers. The labels basically knew
which catalog artists that Top 40 radio was interested in spinning as
oldies, and would "butter us up" on occasion, with some hit gold from
their inventory.
With very few exceptions, their was little concern, at either end, for which
"versions" of songs appeared on these products. When it came to later
oldies airplay, whatever version radio had received on LP from the labels.
Or whatever items was pulled at the mom-and-pop store, were played
on-air - period. And this often included "alternate mixes", to varying
degrees; some subtle; some not so much. I know myself that I've later
gotten confused, when it came to exactly *when* I heard a unique version
of a song. And was it a "current" or an oldie during that moment now
stuck in my mind.........
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 29 December 2016 at 2:42pm | IP Logged
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While I don't have this alternate version, I definitely
remember hearing it, quite possibly on one of the Drake
syndicated formats of the early 70s. Could it possibly
be on the original mono Atlantic GH album?
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vanmeter MusicFan
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Posted: 14 June 2023 at 7:14am | IP Logged
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Sorry for the 7-year-later reply, but my original Golden Hits mono LP has "falling in love" all times.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Stereo LP version ("making love" lyric at 0:53 and 1:44, "falling in love" lyric at 2:34)
The oldest CD I have this version on is Atlantic's multi-disc set Atlantic Rhythm And Blues 1947-1974 Vol. 5 (1985). It sounds just fine here, with lots of tape-hissy high end. The very tail of the fade truncates. The same analog transfer is used on:- Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 10 1964 original release (1987) - rolls off the high end just a little bit
- Atlantic's multi-disc set Atlantic Rhythm And Blues 1947-1974 rerelease (1991)
- TM Century track no. 00009495
There was a new analog transfer on Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 10 1964 RE-2 reissue (after 1987, but not sure of exact release date). The left and right channels are swapped, compared to the Atlantic releases. It sounds OK here, with a slightly tamed high end compared to the Atlantic release above. The tail of the fade is a tiny bit shorter than the Atlantic releases. The same analog transfer is used on:- Time-Life's Rhythm And Blues Vol. 12 1964 (1991)
- Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 13 1964 (1991)
- Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 9 1964 (1991)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 11 1964 (1995)
- Heartland's 2-CD Hooked On A Feeling (1995)
- Time-Life's Heart Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 9 1964 (1996) - has left/right channels swapped compared to other Time-Life collections, so that it matches the Atlantic discs
- Time-Life's 2-CD Body And Soul Battle Of The Groups The Men (2006)
- Ripete's Ocean Drive Vol. 1 - folded down to mono
There was one more analog transfer on Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1964 RE-1 reissue (1993; it wasn't on the 1989 original release of this set). It has the same left/right channels as the Atlantic sets. Sound quality is comparable with the Atlantic set, also with lots of tape-hissy high end. The fade tapers gently out to the same point as the Atlantic releases, so they're the same length.
As a practical matter, these all sound basically good. But there's one distinguishing characteristic of the Rhino set that's an improvement on the others: if I invert the left or right channel, the lead vocal mostly disappears. I can't get the Atlantic set to do that, even with volume adjustments. That tells me that the Rhino set has its left and right channels in good synchronization, while the Atlantic set may be a bit out of sync.
There's one more analog transfer on TM GoldDisc 302, but it's folded to mono and doesn't sound all that great.
45 version and mono LP version ("falling in love" lyric at 0:53, 1:44, and 2:34)
I believe this first appeared on Rhino's Drifters collection Very Best Of (1993). The same analog transfer is used on:- Rhino's Rockin' & Driftin' The Drifters Box Set (1996)
- Atlantic/Rhino's The Definitive Soul Collection (2006)
One outlier: Time-Life's 2-CD Malt Shop Memories Under The Boardwalk (2006) seems to have a stereo rerecording with the "falling in love" lyric in all three places. Odd.
My recommendations
For the stereo LP version, go with Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1964 RE-1 reissue (1993). Be sure to seek out the 1993 version; it's not on the original 1989 release of this CD.
For the 45 and mono LP version, go with Rhino's Very Best Of (1993).
You really can't go wrong with Rhino releases from 1993.
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ChicagoBill MusicFan
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So... I listened to my CD's of the Drifters 'Golden Hits', (Atlantic 8153) and 'All Time Greatest Hits and More' (Atlantic
81931) and the track is in Stereo on both and have the 'making love' version. Are we safe to assume that the stereo versions all
have the 'making love' version and the mono recordings have the 'falling in love' version? For the most part. -Bill.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Bill - For the most part, that's correct.
I encountered a few of the stereo version folded to mono, one of a stereo rerecording with the "falling in love" lyric only, and a bunch of awful rerecordings on some small/non-US labels (I didn't list those).
It's safe to say that if it's on a major label, we can generalize that stereo has "making love" and mono has "falling in love".
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