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I hope this isn't too far off topic, but I figured the brain trust would be the best resource for this.
Despite all my years obsessing over music, there are a few artists that I've never heard pronounced aloud. I wasn't around to hear the radio when these were current hits, so I have no advice for my jocks when these names come up:
Paul Mauriat
(Eumir) Deodato
Jorgen Ingmann
Vangelis
Thanks - Eric
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My understanding is that Vangelis is with a hard "g" (as in girl)--pronounced "van-gel-is".
The other three I'm not certain. I've heard Mauriat's name pronounced a couple of different ways.
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Paul Mauriat's last name is pronounced: MOHR-ee-UH. As Doug correctly reports, Vangelis is pronounced: van-GEL-iss with a hard "g" sound on the second syllable. I'm pretty sure Jorgen Ingmann's last name is pronounced as it looks: ING-min. And I believe the pronunciation for Deodato is: DEE-uh-DAH-toe, though I'm not 100% certain.
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Pronunciations I've always heard and used on air include:
Paul Mauriat (Pawl MOHR-ee-AHT)
Eumir Deodato (You-MEER DAY-oh-DAH-toe)
Jorgen Ingmann (YOR-genn ING-mann)
Vangelis (Van-GELL-iss)
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Chris, you're probably right about Deodato being pronounced DAY-oh-DAH-toe. Was never completely sure about that one. However, Paul Mauriat is French, so I'd be surprised if he pronounces the "t" in his last name based on how it's spelled.
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I take back my last comment... I've confirmed that the "t" is indeed pronounced in Mauriat's last name.
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sriv94 wrote:
My understanding is that Vangelis is with a hard "g" (as in girl)--pronounced "van-gel-is".
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I could have sworn I once heard Casey Kasem pronounce it with a soft "g".
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Todd Ireland wrote:
| And I believe the pronunciation for Deodato is: DEE-uh-DAH-toe, though I'm not 100% certain. |
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I thought it was De-DA-toe.
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The Hits Man wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
My understanding is that Vangelis is with a hard "g" (as in girl)--pronounced "van-gel-is".
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I could have sworn I once heard Casey Kasem pronounce it with a soft "g". |
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I've always thought it was pronounced "Vanjelis."
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I've always heard it pronounced "Vanjelis" and never with a hard g until this thread.
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Hmmm... Perhaps Pat, Jim, Gary Mack, and some of our other long-time veteran Top 40 DJs who have spun records by these artists can help weigh in on the pronunciations?
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Just because many pronounce it with a "j" sound doesn't mean it's right. From the web, as quoted in an interview with Keyboard magazine:
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Vangelis: Keyboard Interview "Vangelis Papathanassiou" by Bob Doerschuk, Keyboard Magazine August, 1982
Background: Winning the academy award for Best Soundtrack marks a milestone in the career of Evangelos Papathanassiou, known for years to his fans and now to the world by the name of Vangelis (pronounced, incidentally, with a hard ‘g’, as in agree). But more than that, it has a special meaning for the world in general. Not only does it take the synthesizer one step further as a principal compositional and orchestral tool in movie scoring, the Oscar also signifies its undisputed arrival in the community of instruments. |
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Nice research, Doug. I am certain that your info is correct. But I have NEVER heard his name pronounced that way on the radio, nor did ANY of us at our station say it like that when we played the heck out of it in 1982. Our local Polydor label rep at the time even called him "van-JELL-is" during conversations with me. My knowledge & experiences agree 100% with what Chris Quinn has specified earlier in this topic. Chris was also a LEGENDARY Cleveland DJ back in the day; he would also know. It's always nice for me to see him post, and his and my recollections are in ABSOLUTE sync here. Wouldn't be the first time radio goofed, though. BTW, that song was out for MONTHS, with absolutely NO chart action, with DJ 45s all listing the song simply as "Titles." (I still have a couple of them.) Then, with all the movie success, Polydor got an idea. They put out the same version, but changed the name of it to "Chariots Of Fire - Titles", and it immediately rocketed to #1! At that point, my sense was that Polydor wouldn't have cared if we'd called him "Vinegar", they'd finally got radio to start playing it. Go figure.....
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I'll add to this discussion that sometimes the ARTIST does not even know how to pronounce their own names! We have customized liners from Rihanna where she calls herself "re-ANN-ah." But on her newest single (which features Jay-Z), Jay-Z clearly pronounces is re-ON-ah.
Another artist I've heard pronounce her name two different ways is Lindsay Lohan. I believe we even have an interview with her where she pronounces it differetly in the same interview. One time it's "LOW-han," and another time it's "LOW-in."
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The one pronunciation I could never figure out how she
came up with it is "Shar-DAY" (SADE)....
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Hey, Chris... Are you by any chance related to talk show host, Jim Quinn, from Pittsburgh?
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When Jon Anderson and Vangelis did a collaboration, the radio DJs always
pronounced Vangelis' name with a J sound.
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Todd,
No, I'm not related to Pittsburgh's Jim Quinn. Chris
Quinn is my real name which I've always used on air, but added "The Mighty" in between my first & last names
after Manfred Mann's 1968 hit. It seemed like a natural
for me at the time. I spent several years at Cleveland's
WIXY 1260, 1220 WGAR, and WMJI "Majic" 105.7 as well as
Akron's 1590 WAKR. This is my 42nd year in the biz since
I started at age 16 in 1965.I'm doing mostly engineering
stuff now. These big conglomerates don't want us old Top
40 dinosaurs anymore...too bad because we still have a lot to offer listeners.
I'm glad to contribute to discussions here when I can.
You guys are really "to the wall" nailing timings and
inaccuracies on the various releases of the same songs.
As the English would say, "Jolly good show, eh what?"
Chris Quinn
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<I spent several years at WMJI "Majic" 105.7>
So is that pronounced "Magic" with a hard "G"?
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Chris Quinn wrote:
The one pronunciation I could never figure out how she
came up with it is "Shar-DAY" (SADE)....
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Chris, Sade was born in Nigeria. I always assumed it was the way it is pronounced in Africa.
Your comment brought my interest back, so I googled, here's what I found:
The girl's name Sade \s(a)-de\ is pronounced shah-DAY, shar-DAY. Short form of Folasade, a Yoruban/African name meaning "honor confers a crown". The Nigerian singer Sade has influenced popularity of the name and the shar-DAY pronunciation. See also Shadiya and Sharde.
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