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jimct
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Every night of timing research seems to bring me at LEAST one big surprise, and here's the one for tonight: I own two different commercial 45 copies for this. Both have a listed time of (3:30), and both have an actual time of (3:42). Both 45s state "MONO", in bold print, on the labels, but it's actually true for only ONE of my two 45s - the one with deadwax of "RS - 24176 - 2 SP" IS, in fact, mono. But my OTHER commercial 45 has deadwax info of "ST - RS - 24176 - 1 SP", seeming to indicate "stereo" at the front of its deadwax info, which it is, despite the label's statement to the contrary.
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I found myself holding a copy of each of the 2 pressings
Jim describes above, both stating mono but one is
actually stereo. So I thought hey, let's see if they
have the same version. You'll be frustrated to know, they
don't.
The stereo 45 has the LP version on it. No surprise
there.
The MONO 45 is the same as the stereo mix up until 2:21.
There is a splice at 2:21 right on the words "Roll
me...." and the whole ending part is tacked on from a
slightly different mix. The backing girls singing "got to
roll me" are a little lower and have more reverb. Then at
2:45 the guys who sing "Keep on rollin!" come in and they
repeat 5 times.
In the stereo, those guys come in at 2:54 and repeat 3
times.
Amazing the things we come across.
MM
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Thanks for the great detective work, Mark! It looks like the Specialty Records plant was the culprit for inadvertently issuing the stereo side of the DJ 45 on some rogue stock 45s. The deadwax info on the stereo side of my Specialty-pressed DJ 45 matches Jim's Specialty-pressed stereo stock copy.
The deadwax area on the stereo side of my Plastic Products-pressed DJ 45 differs from the Specialty pressing, with the Artisan logo positioned in a different spot, as well as a different matrix number: "ST - RS - 24176 - 3 PP". But it plays the same stereo version as the Specialty stereo DJ 45 side.
Both of my Plastic Products-pressed stock 45s play the mono 45 version.
Edited by Yah Shure on 24 January 2016 at 11:29pm
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