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Posted: 11 June 2007 at 12:33pm | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan

Hello

I am new to this forum, and I am so very impressed with the knowledge I have seen in some of these posts. I am trying to collect the Top 40 songs using Whitburn as my guide. It is my goal to try and get either the 45 version from an existing CD or the original 45 version from the 45 source if not on CD. At present, I have been working on 1955-59. I am very close, but several songs seem to be very hard to located CD sources.

Please, I need some help from you if possible. Could someone please tell me if you kow of a CD versions for any of the following 45s?

1.) Al Hibbler - Never Turn Back
2.) Bill Hayes - Wringle, Wrangle
3.) Billy Vaughn and His Orchestra - La Paloma
4.) David Carroll and His Orchestra - Melody Of Love
5.) David Seville - The Bird Sitting On My Head
6.) Dick Jacobs - Main Title and 'Molly-O' (From 'The Man with the Golden Arm')
7.) Dick Jacobs - Petticoats Of Portugal
8.) Don Cornell - The Door Is Still Open To My Heart
9.) Dream Weavers - A Little Love Can Go A Long, Long Way
10.) Eddie Barclay - The Bandit (O'Cangaceiro)
11.) Eddie Fisher - Don't Stay Away Too Long
12.) Eddy Arnold - I Wouldn't Know Where To Begin
13.) Eydie Gorme - Love Me Forever
14.) Eydie Gorme - Mama, Teach Me To Dance
15.) Five Satins - I'll Remember (In The Still Of The Nite)
16.) Fontane Sisters - The Banana Boat Song
17.) Gloria Mann - Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine)
18.) Joe Ward - Nuttin' For Christmas
19.) Julius LaRosa - Torero
20.) Kay Thompson - Eloise
21.) Kitty Kallen - Go On With The Wedding
22.) Larry Williams - Bony Moronie
23.) Laurie Sisters - Dixie Danny
24.) Lawrence Welk - Moritat (A Theme From 'The Three Penny Opera')
25.) Lawrence Welk - The Poor People Of Paris
26.) Lee Andrews and the Hearts - Try The Impossible
27.) Leo Diamond - Melody Of Love
28.) McGuire Sisters - May You Always
29.) Mills Brothers - Get A Job
30.) Mormon Tabernacle Choir - Battle Hymn Of The Republic
31.) Nick Noble - Moonlight Swim
32.) Nick Noble - To You, My Love
33.) Patti Page - Belonging To Someone
34.) Quin-Tones - Down The Aisle Of Love
35.) Renato Carosone - Torero
36.) Richard Hayman - (A Theme From) The Three-Penny Opera (Moritat)
37.) Roger Williams - La Mer (Beyond The Sea)
38.) Steve Allen - Autumn Leaves
39.) Teresa Brewer - Heavenly Lover
40.) Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game
41.) Tony Bennett - Happiness Street (Corner Sunshine Square)
42.) Tony Bennett - The Autumn Waltz
43.) Will Glahé and His Orchestra - Liechtensteiner Polka

I thank you very much for any help you can provide. Any information from you al well be valued greatly.

I hope I can be of help to some of you as well.

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Chris
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Posted: 11 June 2007 at 2:55pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

Chris,

I recommend you sign up for Pat's database. It's a VERY low annual fee, and you'll find you can input your titles above and find what (US domestic) CDs they are on. That will narrow your list as some of the above are indeed on CD!

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Posted: 11 June 2007 at 3:22pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

15.) Five Satins - I'll Remember (In The Still Of The Nite)


Under various titles...In The Still Of The Night/Nite/ I'll Remember.....this is one of the most reissued songs of all time.



40.) Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game

Which version? 1951 or 1958? Both are on cd....the stereo mix has a lot of echo on it while the 45 is dry, yet if you fold the stereo mix down to mono, all of the echo disappears.....so that must just be how it was recorded and not an added effect to the song....

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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 7:15am | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan

davidclark wrote:
Chris,

I recommend you sign up for Pat's database. It's a VERY low annual fee, and you'll find you can input your titles above and find what (US domestic) CDs they are on. That will narrow your list as some of the above are indeed on CD!


Hi David,

I have signed up for his online database, and have his 10th edition book.   I have done massive research on these songs in the database and on the net and have not found a CD version for any.

thank you for your response
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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 7:20am | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan

TomDiehl1 wrote:
15.) Five Satins - I'll Remember (In The Still Of The Nite)


Under various titles...In The Still Of The Night/Nite/ I'll Remember.....this is one of the most reissued songs of all time.



40.) Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game

Which version? 1951 or 1958? Both are on cd....the stereo mix has a lot of echo on it while the 45 is dry, yet if you fold the stereo mix down to mono, all of the echo disappears.....so that must just be how it was recorded and not an added effect to the song....


Thanks Tom

The Five Satins song I have on CD, but it differs from the time in the Whitburn book. The time in Whitburn is 2:30 and most all of the copies are o/a 3:01. Is the 45 time really o/a 3:01?

Also, the Tommy Edwards song is from 1958. The time in Whitburn is 2:25 but I have not seen any songs less than 2:37 on CD. Is the 45 time really o/a 2:37?

thank you
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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 11:09am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

what does o/a mean??

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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 11:15am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Bird on My Head is on this out of print Japanese CD:

http://www.amazon.com/Music-David-Seville/dp/B0000D8RVJ

I'm sure you can probably find a used copy somewhere for a reasonable price.

Quite a few timings are incorrect in the Whitburn books, because he mostly goes by the time printed on the label, which is frequently wrong. We have corrected many of them here on the board, which Pat adds to the database, but it doesn't look like anyone has looked at those two yet. My guess is the 2:25 time for "All in the Game" is a typo.

Mills Brothers "Get a Job" is in the database. Is that not the hit version?

"Melody of Love" by David Carroll I know for a fact has never been issued on CD. That's one of my top wants myself, and I've spent hours looking for it. It's not out there.
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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 1:35pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

ahhh, now I see why certain songs are on your list, Chris! You've done some great research and your post will result in a priviliged few who have 45s to perform some analysis and then possibly database updates for Pat!

Billy Vaughn and His Orchestra - La Paloma is on the Varese comp "Melody of Love: The Best of Billy Vaughn" according to the database (and, the CD itself). It is stereo there, and from 1958. I am not familiar if this version is the 45 in stereo, but no indication is given in the database, so I have assumed it is (not being overly familiar with the song). Hot 100 Annual states timing 2:10. Actual on the CD is 2:29, so it's either a Whitburn error or the database needs updating. This is where the board springs into action to result in a database update if necessary, with certain members having 45s to verify against.

Larry Williams - Bony Maronie. Whitburn time 2:40, CD times ~3:05.

McGuire Sisters - May You Always. Whitburn time 2:21, CD times ~2:56.

Quin-Tones - Down The Aisle Of Love. Whitburn time 2:39, CD times ~2:48.

Renato Carosone - Torero. Whitburn time 2:50, CD time 3:01.


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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 2:02pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Brian W. wrote:
Quite a few timings are incorrect in the Whitburn books, because he mostly goes by the time printed on the label, which is frequently wrong.


While that is true for the earlier editions, in the latest "Hot 100 Annual" book I corrected A LOT of timings. Hope everyone here bought a copy:)
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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 2:09pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

Hi Paul,

yes, I have the new Hot 100 Annual and many corrections have been made. There are still anomalies however, and I'm sure this board will get to the bottom of many for the next edition!

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Posted: 13 June 2007 at 5:47am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Re: "May You Always" by The McGuire Sisters...the 2:21 in the Pop Annual is simply a typo: 2:56 is the correct time.
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Paul Haney wrote:
Re: "May You Always" by The McGuire Sisters...the 2:21 in the Pop Annual is simply a typo: 2:56 is the correct time.


Paul, thank you for resolving this song's time. I appreciate your help.

Are you affiliated with the Whitburn publication? I apologize if you are for my lack of knowledge. I am new and don't kow everyone here and what they do.

thanks again
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edtop40 wrote:
what does o/a mean??


Sorry EdTop40, my abbreviation for approximately.

take care
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Brian W. wrote:
Bird on My Head is on this out of print Japanese CD:

http://www.amazon.com/Music-David-Seville/dp/B0000D8RVJ

I'm sure you can probably find a used copy somewhere for a reasonable price.

Quite a few timings are incorrect in the Whitburn books, because he mostly goes by the time printed on the label, which is frequently wrong. We have corrected many of them here on the board, which Pat adds to the database, but it doesn't look like anyone has looked at those two yet. My guess is the 2:25 time for "All in the Game" is a typo.

Mills Brothers "Get a Job" is in the database. Is that not the hit version?

"Melody of Love" by David Carroll I know for a fact has never been issued on CD. That's one of my top wants myself, and I've spent hours looking for it. It's not out there.


Thank you BrianW

I appreciate your comments

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Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:09am | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan

Thank you David for your response
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CollectoMan wrote:
Paul, thank you for resolving this song's time. I appreciate your help.

Are you affiliated with the Whitburn publication? I apologize if you are for my lack of knowledge. I am new and don't kow everyone here and what they do.

thanks again
Chris


Chris, I've worked as a researcher for Record Research since 1992.
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does anyone one know if the new import cd titled "girls
allowed 50's girls rarities" issued by jasmine records in
the uk contains the original artists and versions....i'd
hate to shell out $15 for a poorly organized and arranged
cd compilation.....see below for track listings...



Album Features
UPC:     604988052428
Format:     CD
Release Year:     2010
Record Label:     Jasmine Records
Genre:     Pop Vocal
Number Of Discs:     2

Track Listing
DISC 1:
1. I Will Never Marry - Patty Andrews
2. Friendship Ring - Patty Andrews
3. Bold Black Night, The - Rose Brennan
4. Kiss Me Again - Rose Brennan
5. My Favorite Song - Lily Ann Carol
6. Raindrops - Lily Ann Carol
7. I Hear the Music Now - Karen Chandler
8. Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me - Roberta Lee
9. Carribean - Roberta Lee
10. Snowbound for Christmas - The De Castro Sisters
11. Padre - Lola Dee
12. Taking the Trains Out - Lola Dee
13. A Certain Smile, A - Sunny Gale
14. Just Friends - Sunny Gale
15. Dixie Danny - Laurie Sisters
16. When You Dance - Laurie Sisters
17. Moments to Remember - Dorothy Collins
18. Love and Marriage - Dorothy Collins
19. My Promise - Patti Page
20. You Will Find Your Love in Paris - Patti Page
21. Brush Off, The - Mary Small
22. Careless - Mary Small
23. You're Gonna Flip Mom - Jeri Southern
24. Touch of Love, The - Jeri Southern
25. Aw C'mon - April Stevens
26. And So to Sleep Again - April Stevens
27. Sweet Violets - Jane Turzy
28. Boom Song - Jane Turzy
29. Silver Wings in the Moonlight - Margaret Whiting

DISC 2:
1. Poor Whip, Poor Will - The Andrews Sisters
2. Wondering - The Andrews Sisters
3. Christmas Chopstick - Mindy Carson
4. Fish, The - Mindy Carson
5. Whisper - Betty Clooney
6. Wonder Why - Betty Clooney
7. A Wonderful Guy, A - Janette Davis
8. Some Enchanted Evening - Janette Davis
9. Backward Turn Backward - Jane Froman
10. I Solemnly Swear - Jane Froman
11. He's Got the Whole Worlds in His Hands - Mahalia
Jackson
12. Lord Is a Busy Man, The - Mahalia Jackson
13. Early Spring - Alice Lon
14. A Knockin'at My Baby's Door, A - Alice Lon
15. White Silver Sands - The Lennon Sisters
16. One Day a Little Girl - The Lennon Sisters
17. He Knows - Gisele MacKenzie
18. Never Go 'Way - Gisele MacKenzie
19. Song of the Dreamer - Bunny Paul
20. For the Very First Time - Bunny Paul
21. Molasses Molasses - Roberta Quinlan
22. An Orange Coloured Sky, An - Roberta Quinlan
23. Never Do a Tango with an Eskimo - Bette Anne Steele
24. Mr. Wonderful - Bette Anne Steele
25. Winter Warm - Gale Storm
26. One More Sunrise - Leslie Uggams
27. Eyes of God, The - Leslie Uggams
28. Sunday Kind of Love - Fran Warren
29. When You Love a Fella - Vicki Young
30. Pink Shampoo - Vicki Young

Details
Playing Time:     156 min.
Distributor:     Traditions Alive
Recording Mode:     Stereo
SPAR Code:     n/a

Editorial Reviews
5 stars out of 5 -- This is a highly refreshing and
varied collection that offers surprises, and singers and
tracks of great interest.
Record Collector


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"May You Always" did make it to CD on MCA in Stereo back in the late 1980's-1990's time frame. The disc it was on was a McGuire Sisters hits compilation. And was superb sounding to these ears.

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