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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 11 June 2007 at 1:37pm | IP Logged
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There is a version of Maggie May on Napster listed as the Single version on a CD called "70's Pop #1's." The run time is listed as 3:43?
It appears to be the complete song, just not sure where the edit appears.
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davidclark MusicFan
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eriejwg,
be very very careful of the "single version", "LP version" distinction on Napster, iTunes, etc. To be blunt, those that do that labeling, really have no idea what they are doing. I've seen countless errors, and do not at all rely on it. THIS BOARD is what you CAN rely on, however!
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edtop40 MusicFan
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dc....amen to that, brother!!!!
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eriejwg MusicFan
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David and Ed:
I suspected the versions I've mentioned thus far ( Rod Stewart and Murray Head) weren't correct edits. I have had the AM Gold version of Rod Stewart for a long time.
I am definitely going to enjoy myself subscribing and scouring the database. I have already told some friends about this site. We are all '40 somethings' who have been in search of true 45 versions for years.
Having spent 23 years in radio, I only knew the 45 versions because that's all I played. I may not be a true collector like many of you, but in the last year, I've purchased over 100 promo and stock 45's to get the versions I remember.
Tom Daly mentioned this site on his so I definitely had to check things out for myself.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 11 June 2007 at 8:00pm | IP Logged
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Eriejwg, you're gonna fit right in here. It'll take a couple of weeks for you to truly comprehend exactly HOW determined many of us here on the Board are to "get to the bottom" of the changes which sometimes mystically seem to occur between an original 45/cassette/CD single release, and a subsequent database CD appearance. To be fair, the labels DO get it right more often than not. But if they happen not to, we "obsessive sticklers for accuracy and detail" will generally uncover it sooner, rather than later, as our previous posts reflect. So once again, welcome.
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Bumping this old thread up as there appear to be several compact discs that feature a short (3:38) or so version of this song so there must have been a dj edit. Can anyone report back if you have an edited dj copy of Maggie May? The commercial 45 runs (5:11) while the label states a run time of (5:15).
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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My guess is that songs over 5 minutes can cost more to license so somebody at Universal got around to editing it a few years ago to get it on more CDs. Since it was originally a B side and became a hit on it's own I don't believe Mercury sent out an edit on it's original run. Warner mangaged to fade it early to 4:57 for the original Greatest Hits LP, that was a remix and I was never sure why they faded that out early, I figured it was to keep it under 5 minutes for licensing or helped them time out the 8 track tape version.(Some albums would have edits and fades timed so there were shorter pauses as the channels switched) In any event if somebody has a relationship with Andy McKaie at Universal he might know.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 27 February 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged
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Pat Downey wrote:
There appear to be several compact discs that
feature a short (3:38) or so version of this song so there must have been a
dj edit. Can anyone report back if you have an edited dj copy of Maggie
May? The commercial 45 runs (5:11) while the label states a run time of
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Pat, with all due respect, I believe your stated premise
here to be faulty. As you well know, many CDs in your database include a
"neither the 45 nor the LP version" of a song on them. And there are
numerous other cases when "mystery edit versions" have seemingly come
out of nowhere, only to make their CD debut years later. As Bill Cahill
correctly stated earlier, "Maggie May" was originally the B-side of this
promo 45, which radio opted to flip over. (The way Mercury indicated their
A-side choice to radio at this time was to include two "black bullets", both
before and after the song title. These "bullets" appear on the "Reason To
Believe" side, but not on the "Maggie May" side.) I have also seen a good
number of promo 45 copies over the years, and all appear to be exactly
the same as my copy is. All with "Reason To Believe" on one side of it,
which obviously eliminates the possibility of a Maggie May "long/short
version" on the same promo 45. Could a 2nd, different promo 45 exist?
Yes, but in this case, I put the chances at just over absolute zero! Finally,
according to RR/Mr. Whitburn, this song was the second biggest hit song
of the entire year of 1971. I never heard any other version played on Top
40 radio as a current, other than the singular, L 5:15/A 5:11 promo &
stock 45 version. (Although I have occasionally heard the LP version, with
that brief, opening instrumental interlude, on AOR stations, though.) And
yeah, some oldies stations play it off his "Greatest Hits" CD, which fades it
about :15 seconds early, but that's just "don't know/don't care." And
with all the "70's wheelhouse" and "photographic memory types" we have
here on the Board, I'm totally confident we would've long ago remembered
hearing on-air/inquired/unearthed an "official edit" version for this
massive #1 hit, had there been one. Therefore, my confidence is very high
on this one, Pat - no "official" Maggie May 1971 short 45 edit ever
existed.
Edited by jimct on 27 February 2012 at 11:43pm
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