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CollectoMan
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Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:33am \| IP Logged

Hello

I probably need to clarify what I am resarching. I appreciate all your responses, but it seems that I was a bit confused on my request.

I have the 45s listed below with a corresponding lossless rip and label for each.

What I am trying to research is if there is a song on a CD for the 45. I have broken the data into 3 seperate groups:

1.) Songs that are not on any CD, 2.) songs that are out on a CD but are not the correct 45 timed version, and 3.) songs that have are out on CD with the correct timed 45 version, but I do not own (the respective CD needs to be verified).

What I would like to do is confirm my research to see if it is correct. Can any of you please help me?

I. Songs not on any CD.

1) Steve Allen - Autumn Leaves - 45 time (2:31) - Coral 61485
2) Eddy Arnold - I Wouldn't Know Where To Begin - 45 time (2:18) - RCA 6699
3) Eddie Barclay - The Bandit (O'Cangaceiro) - 45 time (2:12) - Tico 249
4) Tony Bennett - Happiness Street (Corner Sunshine Sq) - 45 time (2:13) - Columbia 40726
5) Tony Bennett - The Autumn Waltz - 45 time (3:09) - Columbia 40770
6) Teresa Brewer - Heavenly Lover - 45 time (2:21) - Coral 62084
7) David Carroll and His Orch. - Melody Of Love - 45 time (2:51) - Mercury 70516
8) Don Cornell - The Door Is Still Open To My Heart - 45 time (2:43) - Coral 61393
9) Dream Weavers - A Little Love Can Go A Long, Long Way - 45 time (2:30) - Decca 29905
10) Leo Diamond - Melody Of Love - 45 time (2:12) - RCA Victor 5973
11) Eddie Fisher - Don't Stay Away Too Long - 45 time (2:12) - RCA Victor 6196
12) Fontane Sisters - The Banana Boat Song - 45 time (2:18) - Dot 15527
13) Will Glahé and His Orch. - Liechtensteiner Polka - 45 time (2:26) - London 1755
14) Eydie Gorme - Love Me Forever - 45 time (2:45) - ABC-Paramount 9863
15) Eydie Gorme - Mama, Teach Me To Dance - 45 time (2:32) - ABC-Paramount 9722
16) Bill Hayes - Wringle, Wrangle - 45 time (1:58) - ABC-Paramount 9785
17) Richard Hayman - Th. From 'Three Penny Opera' (Moritat) - 45 time (2:30) - Mercury 70781
18) Al Hibbler - Never Turn Back - 45 time (3:02) - Decca 29950
19) Dick Jacobs - Main Title Fr. 'Man with the Golden Arm - 45 time (2:54) - Coral 61606
20) Dick Jacobs - Petticoats Of Portugal - 45 time (2:29) - Coral 61724
21) Kitty Kallen - Go On With The Wedding - 45 time (2:51) - Decca 29776
22) Julius LaRosa - Torero - 45 time (2:26) - RCA 7227
23) Laurie Sisters - Dixie Danny - 45 time (2:06) - Mercury 70548
24) Gloria Mann - Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine) - 45 time (2:40) - Sound 109
25) Nick Noble - Moonlight Swim - 45 time (2:17) - Mercury 71169
26) Nick Noble - To You, My Love - 45 time (2:53) - Mercury 70821
27) Patti Page - Belonging To Someone - 45 time (2:06) - Mercury 71247
28) Kay Thompson - Eloise - 45 time (2:13) - Cadence 1286
29) Joe Ward - Nuttin' For Christmas - 45 time (2:12) - King 4854
30) Roger Williams - La Mer (Beyond The Sea) - 45 time (2:51) - Kapp 138
31) Lawrence Welk - Th. From 'Three Penny Opera' (Moritat) - 45 time (2:08) - Coral 61574
32) Lawrence Welk - The Poor People Of Paris - 45 time (2:02) - Coral 61592

II. Songs that are out on a CD but are not the correct 45 timed version.
1) Mills Brothers - Get A Job - 45 time (2:31) - Dot 15695
2) Billy Vaughn & His Orch. - La Paloma - 45 time (2:10) - Dot 15795
3) Larry Williams - Bony Moronie - 45 time (2:41) - Specialty 615

III. Songs that are out on a CD with the correct timed 45 version but I do not own.
The CD with the correct timed 45 version is listed but needs to be verified.

1) Best Of Andy Williams: The Cadence Years (Varese Sarabande 5644)
Andy Williams - Lips Of Wine - 45 time (2:22) - Cadence 1336
Andy Williams - Promise Me, Love - 45 time (2:22) - Cadence 1351

2) Sail On Silvery Moon (Box Set) (Bear Family 15970)
Billy Vaughn & His Orch. - When The White Lilacs Bloom Again - 45 time (2:32) - Dot 15491

3) Marvelous Marv - Golden Classics (Collectables 5236)
Marv Johnson - Come To Me - 45 time (2:16) - United Artists 160

4) The Specialty Story [Box] (Specialty 4412)
Little Richard - Ooh! My Soul - 45 time (1:48) - Specialty 633

5) The Music Of David Seville (Toshiba-EMI (Jap.) TOCP-67282)
David Seville - The Bird On My Head - 45 time (2:17) - Liberty 55140

6) The Second Coming (Charly 8244)
Little Richard - Slippin' & Slidin' (Peepin' & Hidin') - 45 time (2:25) - Specialty 572

7) Teen Beat, Vol. 5 (Ace 766)
** Martin Denny - Quiet Village - 45 time (2:57) - Liberty 55162

Thank you again for any help you can provide me
Chris

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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 6:52pm \| IP Logged

Regarding Billy Vaughn, "La Paloma", The stereo vinyl version does run (2:20) and could very well be a stereo rerecording. I do not have the vinyl 45 so I cannot comment on whether this stereo version is a rerecording.

Regarding Larry Williams, all songs in the database in my opinion are the 45 version, just run around :23 longer.

CollectoMan
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 7:07am \| IP Logged

Pat Downey wrote:

Hello Pat

It is good to meet you. I am a great admirer of your work! You have done an awful lot to help me acquire the correct songs for my collection. I sure appreciate your work and your help!

I have acquired the 45s for each of the songs I list as "45 time (x:xx)". I also have the label and a lossless digital version of the song. I know for certainty that Bony Maronie's play time is 2:41 and the La Paloma play time is 2:10. I can send the songs for reference if you want.

take care
Chris

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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 1:21pm \| IP Logged

Chris, I have the 45 of "Bony Moronie" also and it does indeed run (2:41) as stated on the record label. What I am saying is that if you wish to recreate the 45 length, you simply need to fade any of the current cd appearances (which are longer) at that point and you will have the 45.

If you have an mp3 that you wish to send me of the vinyl 45 of "La Paloma" I would be happy to compare it to the stereo versions that appear on cd to try to determine if they are rerecordings.

CollectoMan
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Posted: 18 June 2007 at 8:01am \| IP Logged

Pat Downey wrote:

If you have an mp3 that you wish to send me of the vinyl 45 of "La Paloma" I would be happy to compare it to the stereo versions that appear on cd to try to determine if they are rerecordings.

Thank you Pat for this offer. I just need to know how to send the song to you and what format you want.

I appreciate the information about Bony Maronie. I will take a look at both the CD and 45 to see if I can edit down the CD to the 45 version.

take care
Chris

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Posted: 24 March 2012 at 7:49am \| IP Logged

posting this twice due to the dual entry

does anyone one know if the new import cd titled "girls
allowed 50's girls rarities" issued by jasmine records in
the uk contains the original artists and versions....i'd
hate to shell out $15 for a poorly organized and arranged
cd compilation.....see below for track listings...

Album Features
UPC:     604988052428
Format:     CD
Release Year:     2010
Record Label:     Jasmine Records
Genre:     Pop Vocal
Number Of Discs:     2

Track Listing
DISC 1:
1. I Will Never Marry - Patty Andrews
2. Friendship Ring - Patty Andrews
3. Bold Black Night, The - Rose Brennan
4. Kiss Me Again - Rose Brennan
5. My Favorite Song - Lily Ann Carol
6. Raindrops - Lily Ann Carol
7. I Hear the Music Now - Karen Chandler
8. Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me - Roberta Lee
9. Carribean - Roberta Lee
10. Snowbound for Christmas - The De Castro Sisters
11. Padre - Lola Dee
12. Taking the Trains Out - Lola Dee
13. A Certain Smile, A - Sunny Gale
14. Just Friends - Sunny Gale
15. Dixie Danny - Laurie Sisters
16. When You Dance - Laurie Sisters
17. Moments to Remember - Dorothy Collins
18. Love and Marriage - Dorothy Collins
19. My Promise - Patti Page
20. You Will Find Your Love in Paris - Patti Page
21. Brush Off, The - Mary Small
22. Careless - Mary Small
23. You're Gonna Flip Mom - Jeri Southern
24. Touch of Love, The - Jeri Southern
25. Aw C'mon - April Stevens
26. And So to Sleep Again - April Stevens
27. Sweet Violets - Jane Turzy
28. Boom Song - Jane Turzy
29. Silver Wings in the Moonlight - Margaret Whiting

DISC 2:
1. Poor Whip, Poor Will - The Andrews Sisters
2. Wondering - The Andrews Sisters
3. Christmas Chopstick - Mindy Carson
4. Fish, The - Mindy Carson
5. Whisper - Betty Clooney
6. Wonder Why - Betty Clooney
7. A Wonderful Guy, A - Janette Davis
8. Some Enchanted Evening - Janette Davis
9. Backward Turn Backward - Jane Froman
10. I Solemnly Swear - Jane Froman
11. He's Got the Whole Worlds in His Hands - Mahalia
Jackson
12. Lord Is a Busy Man, The - Mahalia Jackson
13. Early Spring - Alice Lon
14. A Knockin'at My Baby's Door, A - Alice Lon
15. White Silver Sands - The Lennon Sisters
16. One Day a Little Girl - The Lennon Sisters
17. He Knows - Gisele MacKenzie
18. Never Go 'Way - Gisele MacKenzie
19. Song of the Dreamer - Bunny Paul
20. For the Very First Time - Bunny Paul
21. Molasses Molasses - Roberta Quinlan
22. An Orange Coloured Sky, An - Roberta Quinlan
23. Never Do a Tango with an Eskimo - Bette Anne Steele
24. Mr. Wonderful - Bette Anne Steele
25. Winter Warm - Gale Storm
26. One More Sunrise - Leslie Uggams
27. Eyes of God, The - Leslie Uggams
28. Sunday Kind of Love - Fran Warren
29. When You Love a Fella - Vicki Young
30. Pink Shampoo - Vicki Young

Details
Playing Time:     156 min.
Distributor:     Traditions Alive
Recording Mode:     Stereo
SPAR Code:     n/a

Editorial Reviews
5 stars out of 5 -- This is a highly refreshing and
varied collection that offers surprises, and singers and
tracks of great interest.
Record Collector

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Paul C
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Posted: 27 March 2012 at 3:06pm \| IP Logged

Ed, I don't have this particular CD, but the Jasmine label is one of those "public domain" labels that only issue recordings that are more than 50 years old and are therefore in the public domain in the UK, Canada, and many other countries. Since these recordings must be more than 50 years old, it's a pretty good bet that they are not re-recordings. But because these tracks do not need to be licensed from the various labels, the companies that issue these types of CDs do not receive tapes from the labels and must master the CDs from whatever sources they can find. I would therefore guess that most, if not all, of these tracks are mastered from vinyl.

The good news is that the technological advances in mastering CDs from vinyl have been so great over the last few years that the last few Jasmine CDs I've bought sound superb. You can barely tell they're mastered from vinyl.

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