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Pat has correctly noted in the databaase that the 1969 single on this song is a different mix. The 1971 version is merely an edit from stereo LP version and the mono a fold down from the stereo. In 1969 Question 67 and 68 was mixed with a lot of extra punch for AM radio.
But what I hadn't noticed until this weekend when I listened to it again, is that there is extra percussion (probably shakers) only in the 1969 single issue. It's during the instrumental break.
Just an FYI.
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one of my favorite early chicago songs, especially the "60's au go-go" instrumental break! is the 1969 mix available anywhere besides the 45???
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I believe that's the only place to find that mix. Even re-issue 45s contained the later, 1971 single edit which is just an edit of the album mix. Even the mono Columbia Hall of Fame re-issues were just a fold down of the stereo single version.
For years the Columbia Hall of Fame re-issue 45 would have on the label, Question 67 and 68 [English Version]. That was because whomever put the re-issue out took the label information from one of the promo 45s which had the "English" version on one side and the "Japanese" version on the B side. Which was live.
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BillCahill wrote:
| ... the "Japanese" version on the B side. Which was live. |
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Actually, I believe it's just the same backing track with new Japanese vocals. I have an mp3 of this song in Japanese, and it's definitely Peter Cetera singing in Japanese, and it's definitely a studio recording. (Unless there are TWO Japanese versions...)
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Chicago did do a live version of it in Japanese....but the promo single with the japanese version was only for the reserviced promo single, i believe, and not the original, and is a studio version with the original backing track, it is not the full lp length so i assume it is the length of the US edit version.
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Cool.. thanks for that update.. I thought that promo B side was from Live in Japan, obviously not.
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do any of you fine gentlemen collectors perhaps have available an mp3 of the 1969 single... it would be greatly appreciated!
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I also would like an mp3 of the 1969 single if someone has it available.
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ok, well it seems no one has a digital copy of this available, does anyone have the catalog number of the 1969 version, and what was the b-side??? was it the japanese version (live or not)??? was that just the promo??? i've seen a few original 45's available on e-bay, but with "i'm a man" on the flip, i assume this is the 1971 version...
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The 1969 version had "Listen" as the flip side...which also became the flip side od "Does Anybody Really Know hat Time It Is".
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TomDiehl1 wrote:
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Me too! Other than that, I am looking for the 45 RPM single too.
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this has to be a first! none of our esteemed collectors and sound hounds on this site knows where to find a copy of this 45??? i am truly baffled...
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For those of you that search by numbers, the 1969 version is Columbia 4-44909 with the B side Listen. The 1971 version is Columbia 4-45467 with the B side I'm A Man. Unfortunately I only have the later version.
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I can certanly make an MP3 available but I don't know which side of the DJ promo was the stock. The DJ has side A as edited version. 3:07. Side B is 4:45. the edit is an edit of the 4:45 mono long side mix.
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Would love to have mp3s of both of those, however i would suspect that the edited version made it to the stock 45....what are the matrix numbers on each side?
::edit:: a picture of the stock 45 on ebay for Columbia 4-44909 shows a label time of 3:07, and it looks like the matrix might be ZSP 151534.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=486953101 4
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 18 August 2007 at 3:31pm
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The 3:07 side is JZSP 151568. Trail adds 1C
The 4:45 side is JZSP 151534. Trail adds 1A.
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My brand new Joel Whitburn 1955-2005 Pop Annual lists a time of (4:45) for the 1969 charted version of this. This leads me to believe the copy that RR owns features that timing for the commercial 45. Perahps Paul Haney can check for us. I always thought the (3:07) side only appeared on the DJ 45, but perhaps there were two different 1969 commercial 45s issued.
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Looks to me like perhaps the 45 on ebay that i linked earlier seems to show the matrix for the longer version but shows the time for the shorter version....and now im confused as to what actually made it onto the 45!
Could someone provide both long and short versions of it in mp3s to me?
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 18 August 2007 at 7:57pm
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I finally got to the commercial 45's for this one:
1969 commerical 45 (Columbia 44909) states and runs (4:45). Deadwax: ZSP 151534-1D
B-side: "Listen"
1971 commercial 45 (Columbia 45467) states and runs (3:25). Deadwax: ZSS 155935-1F
B-side: "I'm A Man"
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I just purchased the 4-44909 45 on ebay and dubbed it off. It is the 4:45 version.
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