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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 6:53am | IP Logged
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The US 45 is an easy edit of the LP version from Whitney. Here are edit instructions:
Keep 0:00.0-2:05.3 of the LP version.
Edit on downbeat.
Keep 2:21.4-4:16.2 of the LP version.
Put a 32-beat sinusoidal fade from 4:00.1-4:16.2.
In the mixdown the edit appears at at 2:05.3 and the fade starts at 3:43. Total length is about 4:02.
Note that the true US 45 is a little faster than the CD.
The true 45 is 119.5 BPM and the CD is 119.1 BPM, so you'll need to increase the pitch/tempo of the CD by about 0.3%.
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 9:52am | IP Logged
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Does anyone else think that the 45 version sounds brighter than the album version?
I noticed when comparing the edit I had made from the "Whitney" CD to the 45 version on the CD single ASCD-9641.
I did not equalize or make any alterations to the sound of the version I edited. Listened to both under same conditions.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 9:58am | IP Logged
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I didn't hear much of EQ difference between the 45 and the Whitney CD. I thought both sounded a bit cold and shrill - it's not exactly a warm-sounding recording.
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 6:06pm | IP Logged
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I extracted the files and they do sound pretty much the same, never mind : )
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 07 October 2007 at 4:50pm | IP Logged
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I have a promo CD single for this (ASCD-9641). Our station played Cut 3 of this 6-track promo. Timings are off for most of the tracks, so I'll provide full details:
1-Single Version (listed 4:00; actual 4:01)
2-Extended Remix (listed 7:45; actual 7:51)
3-Edited Remix (listed 4:36; actual 4:25)
4-Dub Version (listed 5:10; actual 5:13)
5-Bonus Beats (listed 4:24; actual 4:26)
6-The Voice (listed 4:10; actual 4:17)
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 8:42pm | IP Logged
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Keep those 45 edit instructions coming! I love making my own 45 edits!
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 09 October 2007 at 7:07am | IP Logged
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Ditto what Hits Man said!
Perhaps, Pat could have a special area of the forum just for 45 edit instructions... ;)
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Underground Dub MusicFan
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Posted: 09 October 2007 at 7:48am | IP Logged
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That's a great idea!
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eric_a MusicFan
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Posted: 28 January 2017 at 1:29pm | IP Logged
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jimct wrote:
Our station played Cut 3 of this 6-track promo.
3-Edited Remix (listed 4:36; actual 4:25)
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I just realized that Arista used this remix for the stock single
in the UK (Arista 43). I'd never heard this mix until I played
this 45, earlier this week. My local stations only played the
LP or US single version.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Posted: 29 January 2017 at 3:23pm | IP Logged
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The main top 40 station in Seattle at the time (Cube 93 FM)
played mostly the Edited Remix.
But that was really common in the UK in the late '80s, for
the single to use a remix edit that was promo-
only in the US. The last three singles from Madonna's
"True Blue" album used the remix/edits for the commercial
singles in the UK (and most of Europe), whereas the U.S.
singles all used the album versions.
Edited by Brian W. on 29 January 2017 at 3:24pm
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Brian W. wrote:
The main top 40 station in Seattle at the time (Cube 93 FM)
played mostly the Edited Remix.
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I remember hearing the Edited Remix a lot back in the late 80's and early 90's on WPLJ and Z100 so I can confirm it did get airplay. It also was a staple on WKTU when it first went on air in NY.
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