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Because this song does not appear on a domestic CD, I went browsing on-line for imports. I did find one that looked good, a Rhino/Atlantic UK 2007 Persuaders release, from some new series, entitled "WP - Warner Platinum". The CD is entitled "The Platinum Collection" (8122-79993-4). It has a listed (3:22), actual (3:29) length version of their 1973 Top 40 hit, "Some Guys Have All The Luck" (which IS the same song that Rod Stewart later had a #10 hit with in 10/84). BEWARE of this CD!!!! Loud vinyl surface noise was VERY quickly noticed, and CLEARLY evident, at both the beginning and the end of ALL of the tracks I just quickly sampled. I'd heard for years that Rhino had a "master tapes only" policy, and I am STUNNED that this legit Rhino/Atlantic release sounds worse than many bootlegs! Perhaps this is why the CD wasn't released in the U.S.? FYI, I'd also be fearful of future "WP - Warner Platinum" releases, in what appears to be a new UK "series".
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Yes, U.K. Rhino's "WP - Warner Platinum" series is indeed new; it was introduced last year, and they're all "legit". As I previously mentioned on this board back in July in the "Seals & Crofts" thread while branching off into Laura Branigan w/ EdisonLite, I already own two: "The Platinum Collection" by LB (8122-70851-2) and the one for Chaka Khan (8122-70855-2), both from '06. Both of those sound just fine (and the track selection on the Branigan disc is fantastic, IMO), so I have no explanation as to why the one for the Persuaders was mastered so poorly, but I do know that that has nothing to do w/ it not being issued in the U.S. And let's not forget, Rhino isn't exactly run by the same people that it used to be; the label's good name has been tarnished somewhat lately. :-( (BTW, are you sure that the catalog no. ends w/ "-4"??? That would normally indicate cassette format...)
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80smusicfreak, I just double-checked the final stock # digit for you, and on both the CD itself, and the jewel case paper insert, it does indeed end with "4". Don't know what to tell you, regarding that #'s relationship to cassettes.
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jimct wrote:
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Hmmm, Rhino over in the U.K. must be using a different system now. Off the top of my head, I forget the technical term for it, but the ending suffix in an album's catalog no. is typically a format indicator. W/ the adaptation of UPC (bar) codes printed on the outside packaging of all music formats here in the U.S. starting in the early '80s, the industry established a format code where the end number indicates the following:
"-1" = vinyl LP
"-2" = CD
"-4" = cassette
"-8" = 8-track
Prior to the early '80s, many U.S. labels actually used "5" instead of "4" to indicate cassette. In other words, picking a selection out of Pat's book, it says that Chicago's 1982 album, "Chicago 16", was issued as Full Moon/Reprise 23689. Armed w/ that info, one could then correctly surmise that the full catalog no. for the vinyl LP was "23689-1", the CD was "23689-2", the cassette was "23689-4", and the 8-track "23689-8", should the person want "Chicago 16" in a specific format (at least when it comes to WEA titles, anyway - some other distributors had the format code in the prefix of the actual catalog no., but the UPC code still used the universal system). Many (but not all) foreign countries also adapted a similar system. So that's why the "-4" on your U.K. CD jumped out at me, especially since both of the titles I own from that same series do end in "-2", as would be expected...
Unless you really know your record labels/distributors, it can get kind of confusing. Heck, even the record labels themselves screwed up now & then! For example, most (all???) vinyl LPs of Rick Springfield's 1984 album, "Beautiful Feelings", erroneously have the cassette catalog no. printed on the spine of the jacket! Also, I remember that most (all???) copies of the cassette version of Great White's 1991 album, "Hooked", actually had the UPC code w/ "-2" for the CD printed on it! (So when the cassettes got scanned at the register, the higher CD price always came up, lol...)
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