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Posted: 14 December 2007 at 9:05pm | IP Logged Quote jimct
Pat, the database currently says that commercial 45s state (3:50) as the run time. My commercial 45 states a run time of (4:02). Deadwax is "PB-14035-A", with a crossed out "1", and then a "2" right next to it. FYI. both sides of my promo 45 also state run times of (4:02).
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Posted: 15 December 2007 at 3:54am | IP Logged Quote Gary
jimct wrote:
Pat, the database currently says that commercial 45s state (3:50) as the run time. My commercial 45 states a run time of (4:02). Deadwax is "PB-14035-A", with a crossed out "1", and then a "2" right next to it. FYI. both sides of my promo 45 also state run times of (4:02).


Jim,
Do you have an actual run time of this song from your 45? I can't find mine.

Thanks!
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Posted: 15 December 2007 at 8:59am | IP Logged Quote jimct
Gary, the actual time of my commercial 45 is also (4:02).
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Is the 7" simply an early fade, an edit, or a completely different mix?

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Posted: 01 March 2011 at 8:33am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
It's an edit, as far as I can remember.
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:02am | IP Logged Quote NightAire
Working with most of the music video, I've come up with two edit points (one certain, the other guessed) and an early fade.

Using the track from the album Big Bam Boom (which has about a second silence on my copy; if you've trimmed yours, you'll need to adjust these times):

1) Take out 2:28 - 2:44. It sounds to be right on the downbeat, trimming the musical bridge to half its original length. I'm confident about this one; it's edited this way on the music video.

2) Take out :01 - :17. This is a guess as my copy of the video starts almost immediately into the lyrics, but I used the opening downbeat to splice into the second half of the opening bars... can anyone with the 45 confirm this edit for me?

3) Take an early fade. Because I like to fade completely out at the end of a phrase, mine actually ends up running 4:04 in length... but since it's for use on a radio station, the segue will happen MUCH earlier anyway... I can't imagine a listener being able to tell.

Hope this helps somebody... and hope to get some feedback on how to trim the intro! Thanks.

Edited by NightAire on 03 March 2011 at 12:04am

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Posted: 30 January 2013 at 8:49pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews
I was curious to make the 45 edit so i got a reference 45
dub, and just completed the edit.

I figured i'd share the info.
BTW, i used a synch-track to learn the exact edit points
as that's more accurate than by ear.

These times assume you'll start with LP version, and make
edits starting at the intro [the later times are only
accurate if you've already done the first edits].
There are 3 edits:

Edit on downbeat from :04 - :21 in intro.

Edit on snare from 2:10 - 2:26

Edit on snare from 3:41 - 4:06

Now in that result, (edit off remaining audio after 4:03)
then fade from about 3:47 until 4:02.


So if you were edit starting from the other end, the
sections taken out of the full LP version are:
4:14 - 4:38
2:26 - 2:42
:04 - :21

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Edited by MMathews on 30 January 2013 at 9:00pm
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Posted: 31 January 2013 at 12:32am | IP Logged Quote NightAire
Good info, MM! Thank you!!

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Posted: 27 June 2013 at 12:27pm | IP Logged Quote 995wlol
Been meaning to ask this question for years to anyone who owns the US 12" single. Can you detect a difference between the so-called "Special New Mix" and the LP version? I can't.
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