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maciav
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Forgive me for asking, but.....
Is there anyone / anywhere on here that can show what a lot of you do or have done in the music profession? I come on here all the time to look up tunes, but I can tell that a lot of you know each other, and a lot of you have worked in the business (and know a lot more about this stuff than me). Can anybody help me / direct me so that in the future I may know whom to ask a question?
For instance, I already know that Paul Haney works for Joel Whitburn. But I can tell some of the other major contributors on here are jimct (who I think I have figured out to work in radio), Todd Ireland, eriejwg, 80smusicfreak, etc.
If somebody could help me connect the dots, it would help me to understand the context of some of your posts better (especially when you are talking about things such as edits, which I don't really understand or have a clue as to how you "create" them).
Come to think of it, I don't even know how Pat got his start (forgive me Pat). The first person I remember hearing of doing something similar to what Pat does was back in the 1990's (Jerry Reuss, who pitched for the Pittsburgh Pirates, Houston Astros, and Los Angeles Dodgers).
Anyway, thanks for any help any of you can provide.
Mike in PA
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Hi, Mike...
Fellow Pennsylvanian here, from Erie, obviously!
I spent 23 years of my life in radio from '74-'97. For the last 10 years, have been a full-time mobile entertainer. After a mention from Tom Daly on his board about this site, I felt like I had come home to some fellow music lovers who sought 45 versions like I had been for awhile.
Thanks to many contributors here, I have been able to locate 45 versions, bought myself a turntable and have dubbed off many 45's I purchased, and taught myself how to use Adobe Audition so I could 'recreate' 45 versions by editing the LP versions.
This is a great communbity here, with almost everyone I've gotten to know here online, a TRUE collector! I only wish I had saved all my original stock 45's, and those promo 45's I had from radio stations. Reason is, I'm buying many all over again!
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I'm Doug. I like long walks on the bea-, oh, sorry.
Don't have a lot of music industry experience--I did a little radio work in the 1980s. I'm basically an audiophile, in spite of the fact that I don't own a turntable, or any vinyl to speak of. But I have a pretty decent ear for music and picking up where songs are edited.
I found my way here having asked on a radio message board about the song "Fast Car." I was replied to by one of the members here, who tipped me off to the existence of this board. I had known of Pat's books for a long time--and even communicated with him from time to time about entries/corrections/clarifications/whathaveyou.
I use WavePad, which is a little freeware program. It's somewhat limited, but for making edits, it's pretty darn good.
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I, too, work in the music business -- as a songwriter.
If anyone wants to know more about my songwriting, they can check out my MySpace page at:
www.myspace.com/gordonpogodasongwriter
I've also compiled/produced a number of reissue CDs -- for Rhino, Varese Sarabande, Universal, Taragon... Projects include "Radio Daze: Pop Hits of the '80s", "Have a Nice Day: Super Hits of the '70s", Tony Burrows, Bo Donaldson & the Heywoods, Jigsaw, Maureen McGovern, etc.
In terms of this board, I do prefer a lot of single edits/versions and edited many of them myself when only the album version is available on CD.
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cmmmbase
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I've worked in and/or around the music industry since '89. In and out of radio in Massachusetts from 1989-2005. I also worked for a jukebox operator (managing his music library - he has a warehouse full of 45s) from 1991-2005, though I still place orders for him as a consultant. I presently am a music researcher for Mediabase 24/7, which provides a similar service as BDS (aka it monitors what radio plays). Prior to being bought out by Billboard, Radio & Records used to publish Mediabase 24/7's airplay data.
I must say that Pat's book, and this forum has been quite helpful...
Edited by cmmmbase on 13 February 2008 at 9:44pm
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I am probably the youngest member of this board (i turned 23 last month), so as such, have not had too much experience in any sort of music industry.
Here is the extent of anything I've done in the music industry (besides purchasing music in various formats): Several years ago I was given a track by an indie Christian punk rock group that sounded terrible and had a clipped/broken intro. I went in and took the digital dub of the track, changed how the audio sounded a little bit, fixed the introduction by using a different part of the song, and made it sound more lively. That track in my remastered form ended up on a tribute cd for another Christian punk rock group that will eventually get released in Scotland (and possibly end up having a US distribution deal as well). That is exactly everything I have done in the music industry in that one song right there (and that was a good three or four years ago that I did that). I've also helped supply rare recordings or memorabilia to a couple of cd releases (one release by an artist directly, and possibly one release coming up from a major record company), but nothing really to note of yet.
As for radio experience, I have pretty much none whatsoever. I've done volunteer (free) work for an online oldies radio station called Topshelf Oldies since April of last year whenever someone needed a last minute fill in DJ, but i am nowhere near professional and mostly just have a love of the music much like everyone else here does. I've had it suggested to me that I should finish school and start applying to the big companies to head up some special products division....who knows, maybe that will be in my future someday.
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My real name is Ron, and I've hosted a pop radio show called "Crap From The Past" since 1992. Hence the catchy username.
I started collecting 45s when I was ten, back in 1978. (First two: "Le Freak" and "YMCA".) I bought everything that hit the top 3, then later the top 5, then the top 10, and by the time 45s petered out in the early '90s, everything I could get my hands on from the jukebox service I was on at the time. Started buying CDs in 1988 (First: Level 42's "World Machine"), and had 9 of them before I had a CD player (a Magnavox 482).
I did mobile DJ work throughout high school in suburban NYC, and got into college radio in 1986. I stayed at the left end of the dial in the years since then, with occasional forays into the commercial radio world (98PXY in Rochester, NY, and KRQ and some others in Tucson).
Life in the non-commercial world was WAY more fun than commercial radio, and I've never looked back. You have the luxury of playing music that you want to play, not what someone else tells you to play, which is pretty darn terrific.
I like to position "Crap From The Past" as a graduate-level course in pop music, so I'm aiming for a pop-savvy audience. It makes sense that I would eventually cross paths with Pat's book (which I've owned for almost ten years) and then this forum.
My CD collection is probably 75% compilations, and I tend to collect the collections themselves, in addition to the music that's on them. Still have all the old 45s, too - about 16 comic book boxes worth.
My equipment is probably considered old-fashioned, but you'll probably agree that they don't make them like they used to. I have a Technics 1200 turntable (which really is worth the $ because it will be the last turntable you'll ever buy - it will outlive you), hooked up to an early-'80s-era Realistic home receiver that drives a pair of monstrous early-'70s-era Advent speakers. I have my home computer hooked up as a "cassette deck" to the receiver, so I can record stuff through the sound card. None of that fancy USB stuff for me! (Until my current machine dies, that is...)
I've used lots of editing programs over the years, and my favorite is still simple-but-sturdy Cool Edit Pro. I have a "lite" version that I got around 1997, and it still works great. I'm able to decipher where edit points are by using the multi-track feature - run two audio tracks together, and if they're synched well, you'll get "chorus"/"flange"-like effects. Those flange effects change or disappear when one of your audio tracks has an edit in it and the other doesn't, so it's pretty easy to tell where they are. I won't bore you with the details of how I take BPMs...
Like many of you, I'm reaching the point where I have nearly all the pop music that hit the charts, and it seemed like the next logical thing to do was to start upgrading the sound quality on those songs. So I got into CD mastering quality, and joined the Steve Hoffman Mastering website (www.stevehoffman.tv), which has a pretty fantastic collection of pros that post regularly. I'll be happy to go on and on at great length about noise reduction (bad!), digital compression (bad!), the loudness wars (really bad!), and the other reasons that most of my CDs came out before 1996.
More than you wanted to know, I'm sure...
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I'm a graphic designer (and music nut) who has done layout and design for a bunch of nationally distributed CDs in the past, on everything from western swing to modern bluegrass to 50s and 60s pop and rock.
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I've been employed in the broadcast industry in some form or other for most of the last 40 years. Part-time/weekend dj (with a few gaps) from 1967 to the late 80s, full time programming (jock, music director, asst. PD) for the next 10 years, currently engineering (and occasionally voicetracking a shift when they're short handed).
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I have no experience inside the record industry, but did bits here and there for radio, mostly production work.
I DJ'd in the 80s, but got tired of it when I had to play too much rap. I decided I liked collecting oldies more.
I'm also one of those audiophiles, but I am not hardcore about it.
I have done extensive work with audio software on the PC, and helped develop one program...I won't say which, but it's very popular!
I restore vinyl records to digital for fun and profit, and have done some mixing and mastering of demos for friends and paying clients.
I am a drummer and have played since 1973. But, today I suck at it!:)
But, at heart, I collect oldies from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and love to recreate 45 versions with Audition if I can't find the single versions anywhere else.
My current project is a monumental task of encoding all of my CDs and CD-Rs to hard drives as FLAC files so I can pack away my CDs and LPs and live off the drives.
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