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edtop40 MusicFan
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my cassingle issued as virgin 12653 contains a non described version which runs 3:23......this cassingle version sounds slightly different than the version from the cd
(S) (3:26) Virgin 88229 Promises And Lies
is it possible that the version from the soundtrack is slightly remixed and shorter in length than the above cd version.....i don't have the soundtrack and promises cd to compare them.....but they definitely are different....can anyone else confirm my suspicions?...also...the cassingle doesn't mention the cd "promises and lies" at all in the credits.....i just says "from the upcoming ub40 album and also from the movie soundtrack "sliver"......this also adds to my suspicions...the running times match up properly as well...cassingle and "sliver" versions both run 3:23 while all others run 3:25-3:26.....
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My U.S. 45 rpm copy (Virgin S7-17402, the so-called "For Jukeboxes Only" issue) has a label that states 3:24, but it actually plays 3:19.
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Yes Ed I do hear a difference between the "Sliver" and Promises And Lies" cd versions.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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I think I may have had "Can't Help Falling in Love" on CD single at one time and I sold it after I bought UB40's Promises and Lies CD. Had I known at the time that the single and album version were different, I wouldn't have parted with the CD single. :-(
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edtop40 MusicFan
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pat...thanks for the confirmation!!
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So is it safe to say that there are 3 different versions of this song? The Single Version, the "Promises And Lies" Album Version and the "Sliver" Soundtrack Album Version?
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Ed,
There was no talking intro when they played it in 1993 in NY. The 3:01 Edit on Virgin D-Pro 12794 was the go to version that got airplay. I don't know about other areas but Z100 and WPLJ rarely had songs with talking intros. the 3:01 cuts off the 20 seconds of talk.
So if the single version is the hit version anyone, please let me know what area it was you were in. I don't consider what the cassette was as I don't have that version.
Edited by PopArchivist on 02 May 2021 at 3:03pm
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All I ever heard on the radio here in Philadelphia was the talking intro. I was surprised to find out years later a version
existed without it.
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What is the "talking" intro? I've never heard any version of the song that has talking.
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thecdguy MusicFan
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I think we're just referring to the opening words on the
single version's intro that sort of sound like they're
being half sung, half spoken. "Talking" probably wasn't
the best way to describe it, lol.
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Sorry Aaron, its the 20 seconds of speech by UB40 that opens the single version instead of starting on the instrumental.
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Oh, okay. That portion sounds fully sung to my ears (just without any percussion behind it), so I was confused about the "talking."
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There's one version that has a busier-sounding
bassline... I'm pretty sure it's on UB40's album but is
not the hit version from the Sliver soundtrack.
The soundtrack version was the one that got serviced to
radio - everybody got the version that started with the
singing of the first verse with minimal instrumentation
(just a keyboard-string background), but many stations
cued past that to get to the part where the beat kicks
in. The 3:01 version without that sung intro was then
sent to radio.
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BSharp wrote:
everybody got the version that started with the
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I would call the intro as sung "Acapella."
I'm going to have to revisit it to find the "Minimal Instrumentation." As far as I remember, it was only the singer.
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There are definitely synthesizers along with the singing, although they
are at a low volume level.
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Here's the "Promises And Lies" version. The only difference is that Ali's vocals
are dry and lower in the mix during the first verse. On the "Sliver" hit version,
there's a delay on his vocals making them sound thicker. The drum machine is
lower in the mix.
UB40-
Promises And Lies Version
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BSharp MusicFan
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radiofan16 wrote:
Here's the "Promises And Lies"
version. The only difference is that Ali's vocals
are dry and lower in the mix during the first verse.
On
the "Sliver" hit version,
there's a delay on his vocals making them sound
thicker.
The drum machine is
lower in the mix.
v=ptF1uSUP6hM&t=48s">UB40-
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The basslines are also completely different. In that
"Promises & Lies" version, the bassline doesn't follow
the chord changes like it does in the single mix.
It's almost as though they re-wrote it to make the
song more musical and just a bit less reggae-
influenced.
Edited by BSharp on 04 May 2021 at 4:46pm
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Duplicate post. Sorry.
Edited by BSharp on 04 May 2021 at 4:45pm
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The music video has the single mix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajp0Uaw4rqo
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