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Unfortunately, the "45 version but longer" CDs with "Galaxy" by War are actually "neither." When comparing the 45 version with Best Of War and More, the CD has an extra 0:08 from 3:30 to 3:38 that is removed on the 45. There is another extra 0:16 from 4:04 to 4:20 on the CD that is not present on the 45.
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so, can the 45 version be extracted from the full length cd/lp version?
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Yes, it can be extracted from the version on Best Of War and More if you edit out the sections mentioned above and fade just a few seconds earlier.
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i just created the proper vinyl 45 version using the
instructions aaron provided....the final version runs 4:14
and matches the vinyl 45 length even though the label
states the time as 4:18, it actually runs 4:14.....if
anyone would like a copy of my handiwork, send me and
email or pm....
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Posted: 16 April 2014 at 12:57pm | IP Logged
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aaronk wrote:
Unfortunately, the "45 version but longer" CDs with
"Galaxy" by War are actually "neither." When comparing the 45 version with
Best Of War and More, the CD has an extra 0:08 from 3:30 to 3:38 that
is removed on the 45. There is another extra 0:16 from 4:04 to 4:20 on the
CD that is not present on the 45. |
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At long last, I have acquired a promo 45 for this song. And it seems to
answer the question of exactly where the (4:04) version of this song came
from. Both sides of my mono/stereo promo 45, confirmed as MCA 40820,
have a listed time of (3:59), but an actual time of (4:04). Deadwax info: mono
side "MC 6909-M-CS-2"; stereo side "MC 6909 CS-2".
Edited by jimct on 16 April 2014 at 12:59pm
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Jim,
Just curious...Ed mentions that his commercial 45 runs 4:14
yet your promo 45 runs 4:04. Just wondering what the 10
second
difference is.
Edited by eriejwg on 16 April 2014 at 4:44pm
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John, I can't speak to what Ed's 45 version sounds like. Aaron already has a
dub of my stock 45 "on file". My copy runs (4:17), however, not Ed's (4:14).
But rest assured, my friend, whenever we discover new stock/promo 45 info,
we basically go into "investigative mode" automatically, at this point.
Especially now, that so many song/version cases have already been solved. A
dub of Ed's copy can quickly be gotten, if it turns out that Ed has "the only
known (4:14) length Galaxy stock 45 in history!!!!" :) I promise there will
be a follow-up post for you, as soon as time allows.
Edited by jimct on 16 April 2014 at 7:50pm
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This is an excellent discovery, Jim! Currently, there is no information in the database about a 3:59 (actual 4:04) promo version, nor has this short edit shown up on any database CDs.
Edited by aaronk on 16 April 2014 at 7:10pm
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i just re-timed my commercial 45 and it's condition is less
than great.....and, to my ears it runs 4:14.....it's
entirely possible the faded in intro and outro are drowned
out by the surface noise of the vinyl.....so my times are
probably not the most accurate...
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Thanks for the (4:14) explanation, Ed.
I know exactly what you mean, about extremely loud surface noise issues.
Every one of the very few bad timings I've ever submitted (most notably my
(2:55) submission for "Brown Eyed Girl") came because my *only* actual
1967 copy sounded like a frying pan with six slices of raw bacon just placed
inside of it - especially at the end. Even mega-sticklers like us have no
chance to hear through all that, without software to help, when such sub-
standard vinyl is used by a label to press up their stock 45s.....
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