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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:36pm | IP Logged
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Have seen a 4:00 version of this song (according to the label scan I saw.) Does anyone know how to recreate this edit from the LP version?
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 16 June 2008 at 9:52pm | IP Logged
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John, I never remember getting in a promo 45 for "All My Love" to the station back in late 1979/early 1980. As far as I know, despite much clamoring to the contrary, the band was adamant that they did not want to issue "All My Love" as a single, and, to my knowledge, it was always just an VERY popular album cut off of their "In Through The Out Door" LP. None of my various reference books indicate that any sort of stock/promo 45 was issued for the song, either. I don't know anything about the label scan you saw, John, and while I've mentioned to you before that I'm always VERY skeptical about claims based on info obtained when a person is not holding the actual audio (45/LP/CD) in their hand. But I know you that are very comfortable doing this very thing all the time, John, and that's fine. Are you sure you saw an actual 45 label scan, though, because I'd be stunned if there weren't a good number of "custom edits" done for the 6:00+ song by radio stations for it, back in the day. If you did see an actual scan, perhaps you could trace back your steps and re-locate it for us, John, and at least provide us with a tangible morsel or two of label info, like a catalog # at least - that would be great. Thanks, John. I'm assuming it would've been issued on their Swan Song label.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 3:35am | IP Logged
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Jim, not a problem at all. Here is the image I saw on ebay...for $49.00 or so! :)
Led Zeppelin promo
Looks as though my eyes may have decived me, as I thought there was a 4:00 on the label.
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sriv94 MusicFan
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 5:28am | IP Logged
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I do see a (4:00) timing. Under the word "Mono."
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 5:49am | IP Logged
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This is an interesting scenario. Prior to the 1990s, how common was it for record labels to issue a song in edited form as a promo 45 to radio, but not release the song at all on commercial 45?
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 6:00am | IP Logged
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Todd Ireland wrote:
This is an interesting scenario. Prior to the 1990s, how common was it for record labels to issue a song in edited form as a promo 45 to radio, but not release the song at all on commercial 45? |
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It wasn't common, but it did happen from time to time. More likely to happen was a song that the label had no plans to release as a single, but was issued as a promo so as to get some radio play.
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MCT1 MusicFan
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What country is that record from -- can anyone read the fine print on the label? The text on the label looks like it may be in Portugese, so perhaps it's from Portugal or Brazil? Wherever it's from, while I share John's curiousity as to how the song was cut down to 4:00, it may have been a local edit created by the Swan Song/Atlantic affiliate in that country.
I second Jim's statement that I've never seen or heard of a U.S. single for this title, stock or promo. Based on a previous discussion in which "All My Love" came up, it seems to have been a rare example from the '70s or '80s of a song that was treated as if it were a single by Top 40 radio -- arguably becoming Led Zeppelin's second-biggest hit "single", behind only "Whole Lotta Love" -- even though it wasn't actually available as such. "All My Love" reportedly hit #10 in R&R's airplay-based charts, and Atlantic apparently waited until its popularity had died down before releasing "Fool In the Rain" as a (real) single, explaining why there was such a time lag from when the In Through The Out Door album came out to when its only (real) single did.
As a side note, there is a bootleg floating around of a incomplete mix of "All My Love" which indicates that the song originally went on longer than the final released version. The cut-off ending has more guitar than the surviving portion of the outro has, then reaches a cold ending. You can find it on youtube -- the tape is an underdub which is missing the horn-like instument (probably actually a synth) during the break, and, at least to my ears, sounds like it isn't mixed the same as the final version (the guitars, both electric and acoustic, seem a bit more prominent). Live recordings of the song from Led Zeppelin's 1980 European Tour have an ending similar to the bootleg.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 17 June 2008 at 9:10am | IP Logged
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John, thanks for the scan - a picture is worth a thousand words! MCT1 is 100% correct here, John; your scan shows an import release, not a U.S. issue. It has a small hole in the middle, which is how European singles were released, and states in Spanish the equivalent of "this is a promotional copy" on the label. There were countless instances where foreign countries would release a song as a single that was not issued that way in the U.S. Nonetheless, like you, John, I'm very curious to see/hear what this import version sounds like.
Edited by jimct on 17 June 2008 at 11:41am
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 12:01pm | IP Logged
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The Brazilian import arrived today and the run speed is actually 33 1/3. Bad news to report. Even though the label states a run time of 4:00, the actual time is identical to the LP version.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 12:57pm | IP Logged
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Sorry to hear that, John. I hope you didn't have to break the bank to get that import!
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 1:01pm | IP Logged
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Pretty close, Todd! LOL.
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