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Posted: 07 July 2008 at 8:58pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Thought I'd cool things off, here in July, for everybody with a Christmas song. My commercial 45, which is mono and confirmed as Laurie 3416, has a listed time of (3:10) and an actual time of (3:08). I only post this info because I recall owning the original "Snoopy And His Friends" album when I was a kid. I also currently own the Collectables "2-LPs-on-1-CD", that Pat notes in the database. Unfortunately, my 40+ year old LP is long gone, but I THINK I remember that the entire track on my album was all titled "The Story Of Snoopy's Christmas", and was simply one long, over (6:00) track. When I played the album back in '67, the song always sounded to me as if it were all one long song, as the "bombs in the distance" can be heard in the final moments of the "Story Of" portion of the song, and they seem to blend right in with the opening "bomb" sounds heard during the song's "45 version" intro. My Collectables CD has the "Story Of" part as Track 17, which seamlessly transitions into Track 18, which is the Snoopy's Christmas "45 version". I'm just looking for some clarification here. If the tracks were separated by different tracks/titles/grooves on my old album, I do not at all recall that, but it is defintely possible. But if it was in fact, "all one long track", as I vaguely recall, there might need to be a 45/LP version designation needed here. Can anyone help here, with actual, original LP details?
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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 2:49am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

BTW, for those not all that familiar with Cash Box, they were not separating Christmas singles at the time, as Billboard was, so "Snoopy's Christmas" actually peaked at #10 on the Cash Box Top 100 in the 12/30/67 issue. Cash Box was still completely sales-based at that time, Randy Penny tells me.

It was #17 in Record World. Not sure what their chart formula was at the time.

I add this information because it didn't chart on the Hot 100 at all, being a Christmas single.

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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 6:58am | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Jim, the Laurie LP is just as you remembered it. Side one consists of three bands, with no physical separation between the "story of..." and the song itself for each of the three hits.

The track info hidden under the jacket's "tear me off" Snoopy poster breaks down each band by "story of" and song listings and timings. The label timings themselves are for the total length of each band.



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Posted: 09 July 2008 at 12:48pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Both your info and your LP label scan are very much appreciated, Yah Shure! My mom bought that LP for me as a reward for volunteering to help her with grocery shopping for our family of 7, and it was one of the very first LPs I ever owned. At the time, she had no idea she would be inadvertantly "igniting" a lifelong obsession!
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Posted: 09 July 2008 at 3:53pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Trust me, Jim. We don't mind the obsession...because we all have it too! :)
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Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:43pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

As obsessions go, it could certainly be worse!

My mom took my three siblings and me to the record store regularly to pick out 45s that we all agreed on. When the mop-tops from Liverpool arrived, mom laid down the law when she announced that "There will be no Beatles records in this house!" That turned out to be a ruse so that she could surprise us on Easter with a copy of Meet The Beatles!

And the floodgates just flew open from there. Thanks, mom!
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Posted: 12 July 2008 at 9:52pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

Brian W. wrote:
Cash Box was still completely sales-based at that time, Randy Penny tells me.


A minor quibble, Randy's last name is not Penny. It's common to get his last name wrong because his email address says PNY but it stands for his last initial and the state he lives in....his actual last name is Price. One of my other friends deliberately calls him "Randy Pony" because of his email address, too.

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TomDiehl1 wrote:
Brian W. wrote:
Cash Box was still completely sales-based at that time, Randy Penny tells me.


A minor quibble, Randy's last name is not Penny. It's common to get his last name wrong because his email address says PNY but it stands for his last initial and the state he lives in....his actual last name is Price. One of my other friends deliberately calls him "Randy Pony" because of his email address, too.


Randy PRICE. I probably knew that... once.
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