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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 4:45pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
The actual commercial 45 run time of Madness' "Our House" is 3:18. (Thanks once again to abagon for the run time information. The stated time on the record label is 3:20.) The reason I post this is because database CD appearances of this song go 3:21-3:25. This suggests to me the LP might run a little longer than the 45. That said, does anyone have the Madness Presents the Rise & Fall vinyl LP on Geffen from 1982 who can pass along the timing info of "Our House"?
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 5:19pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker
Back in '83 when that song was current, one of the Boston CHRs played a slightly different version of this than I've ever heard anywhere else. Just as the song faded out there was the line "our house, just can't wait to get away". This version is not on either the album or 45. Any idea where it came from? That one line kind of changes the meaning of the whole song.
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 6:43pm | IP Logged Quote 995wlol
The 12" version ends with line "Something tells you that you've got to get away from it," but this wording differs from what you remember. Plus the 12" version ends cold with this line--not with a fade.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 5:42am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
It may very well have been the 12". This station did play a lot of 12" versions. Only heard this version a couple of times, and it's been 25 years so it could have been as you described.
Don't think I ever ran across a 12" of this...I'll have to keep my eyes open for a copy.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 5:58am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
I worked at an album rock station in West Virginia in 1983 when this song came out. All we played was the 12".
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 1:06pm | IP Logged Quote bwolfe
I do believe the 12 inch was played at 45 rpm.
That would cause a problem from time to time.
"Addicted To Love" from Robert Palmer was also a 12 inch at the 45 rpm speed.

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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 1:53pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
So was the 12" for Robert Plant's "Big Log." I know, I cued it up the day I debuted it on air. A 45rpm 12" playing for the first 3 seconds...at 33rpm. OOPS! LOL.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 5:20pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure
Todd Ireland wrote:
does anyone have the Madness Presents the Rise & Fall vinyl LP on Geffen from 1982 who can pass along the timing info of "Our House"?


I don't, but I do have "Our House" on the 1983 Geffen LP Madness. Both the listed and actual time is (3:21).
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 5:51pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Was Madness' self-titled LP the parent album of "Our House"?
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 6:44pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure
Todd Ireland wrote:
Was Madness' self-titled LP the parent album of "Our House"?


Yes. Madness reached #41 on the Billboard LP chart, the group's only LP to crack the upper half of the 200.

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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 9:20pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Outstanding, Yah Shure! So I guess we can conclude then that the 45 length of "Our House" is 3:18, while the LP length is 3:21.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 7:39am | IP Logged Quote MCT1
Presents The Rise And Fall was the album on which "Our House" originally appeared in the U.K. The self-titled album that Yah Shure referenced is its sort-of American equivalent.

Presents The Rise And Fall was released in the U.K. in late summer 1982, but was not given a contemporary U.S. release because the band didn't have a U.S. recording deal at the time. Madness had actually been around since the late '70s; Sire released two of Madness' LPs in America in 1979-80, but subsequently dropped them. After that, the group was unable to obtain another U.S. record deal, despite a high level of popularity in Britain, and even, reportedly, some video airplay in the U.S. by MTV.

In early 1983, the video to "Our House" began to get significant airplay on MTV. Around the same time, the U.S. pop charts were overrun by the MTV-driven "Second British Invasion". With both of these developments, Madness' chances in the U.S. suddenly looked a lot better, so Geffen signed them up. Rather than a straight issue of Presents The Rise And Fall, Geffen assembled its own album for the American market. Some of the material on the album was from Presents The Rise And Fall, while some consisted of various other Madness songs that had been popular in the U.K. over the past couple of years. The idea was apparently to present an album of the strongest material that the band had made over the previous two or three years, while their records hadn't been coming out in the U.S. To the extent that some of the music wasn't really current, most Americans had never heard it before anyway (and for those few that had, perhaps from MTV exposure, that it was finally available on a U.S. release was more likely to be a selling point for the album than a negative).

"It Must Be Love" also hit the Top 40 in the U.S. But after its next album in 1985 sold poorly, Geffen dropped them, and the band found itself once again without an American record deal, even though they continued to record and hit the charts in the U.K. for a few more years after that.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 11:30am | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
Actually, they had 2 US lps after 1983's Madness. In 1984 there was Keep Moving (featuring the low charter The Sun And The Rain) and in 1985 there was Mad Not Mad (no US singles I know of).
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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 11:31am | IP Logged Quote Steve Sharp
The U.S. 12" and the U.K. 12" are completely different. The one that ends with the acapella is the U.K. 12". The U.S. 12" was remixed at least a year later (by a U.S. remixer - I'd have to look it up) for the U.S. market, and commissioned by Geffen/Warner Brothers, after they signed Madness.

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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote bwolfe
Used to play "One Step Beyond" and "Michael Caine" in my college days.
I miss the British pop from the 80's.
The mini "British Invasion" of the day made music tons more interesting than it was in 1980-81.
Those years are an extremely uninteresting time in top 40 history.

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Posted: 14 August 2008 at 5:37pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker
bwolfe wrote:

I miss the British pop from the 80's.
The mini "British Invasion" of the day made music tons more interesting than it was in 1980-81.
Those years are an extremely uninteresting time in top 40 history.


I'd even include the first 6 months of 1982 in that as well.
And then, it's like someone flipped a switch. The "Hot Hits" era (roughly summer '82 thru 86 or so) has to be one of my favorite periods of music, with '66-'69 being the only serious competition.
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The U.S. 12" and the U.K. 12" are completely different. The one that ends with the acapella is the U.K. 12".


Do you have a length for the U.S. 12"?

It appears the versions & lengths are as follows:

3:18 - 7" single (early fade of album version)
3:22 - album length
4:21 - U.S. 12" remix
4:58 - U.K. 12" remix

I've found one, crummy copy of the (suspected) US 12"; anybody know if it has made its way to CD, domestic or otherwise? Amazon & iTunes turned up nothing.

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Posted: 01 August 2011 at 12:37pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a
Geffen US released the UK 12" version on, I believe, the US
12" promo. I dubbed something from my college station ~10
years ago, and I seem to recall it was a generic Warner
Bros.-type white 12" jacket with printing on the front
only.
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Posted: 01 August 2011 at 4:39pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Well, i only bought the U.S. 12" mix on Geffen ... and yes, it ran 45 rpm. I used to hate forgetting which ones were 45rpm 12" when cuing them!

So, i just checked my mp3 copy of my disc dub and it runs 4:58 and it does indeed end cold with the a capella line.

NightAire, PM me and i'll email you my copy of it, it is quite clean. (or anyone who who would like it.)   
As for CD's, i seem to recall it was on a new wave v/a comp from the 90's, but mine are packed so i can't check that. But that would be long out of print. If i find it, i'll report back which one.

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Posted: 01 August 2011 at 6:43pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500
I have a very different version that runs 5:49 and ends with people talking. It is on a French CD Culture Dance Vol 4. (Special Club) Very, very different from the 4:58 version. Lots of stop and start action.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Culture-Dance-Volume-4-Specia l-Club/release/589646

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