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Posted: 09 August 2009 at 12:04am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I just finished typing a novel about the various promo CDs and versions listed in the database, and the site booted me out when I hit "Post New Topic." Since it took me about a half hour to detail all of it, I'm not going to be as detailed this time around.

The short story:

Two promos
CD45-18130
1. LP (5:43)
2. Short (4:09) (45 version)

CD45-18229 (these are the remixes that are contained on many database CDs)
1. 7" Edit (4:02) (listed 3:59) (no rap at 2:35)
2. Radio Edit (4:10) (rap at 2:35)
3. Extended Hype (5:40)

Pat, please double-check your New Edition "All The Number Ones," as my copy has the (4:10) Radio Edit, but the database lists (4:29) as the run time. Maybe there are two pressings.
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Posted: 09 August 2009 at 12:07am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
By the way, the other part of the story is that there are a bunch of database CDs with "neither" listed next to them. Those are going to be either the 7" Edit or the Radio Edit. For CDs that have a (4:29) remix, I don't know where the length comes from, but it's the same remix as the others.
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Posted: 09 August 2009 at 8:31am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
One more note I just thought of... Our top 40 station played the "Short" (45 version) when it was a hit. Years later, when we still played it as a gold or during our retro lunch hour, we had switched to the 7" Edit.
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 2:22pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Pat, I see you've updated the listing. Thanks! There are two CDs that still list "neither":

(S) (4:01) Hip-O 40099 Absolutely '90s (neither the 45 nor LP version)
(S) (4:01) Hip-O B0005330 New Edition - Gold (neither the 45 nor LP version)

Do these CDs perhaps contain the 7" Edit (same remix as "Radio Edit" but missing the rap at 2:35)?
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 5:43pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Just listened to a preview of the track on New Edition - Gold and it sounds like a completely different mix, not the Radio Edit.
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 8:58pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
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Edited by Todd Ireland on 14 August 2009 at 9:19pm
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 10:27pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
eriejwg wrote:
Just listened to a preview of the track on New Edition - Gold and it sounds like a completely different mix, not the Radio Edit.

I also just listened to a preview of this song on the same CD, and it does sound like the Radio Edit mix. Please note that the Radio Edit and 45 version are completely different mixes. The 45 version is an edit of the LP version. The Radio Edit is a short version of the Extended Hype mix.
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Posted: 20 May 2011 at 3:49pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
my commercial cassingle issued as motown 2045 states the version as (7" edit) with no listed run time but actually runs 4:01.....so something is amiss here...can someone do an A/B to see if the vinyl 45 actually runs 4:09.....if so....we have a difference in single formats....i have the promo cd single issued as mca cd45-18130 and the second track is NOT the same as the cassingle version....if the vinyl 45 actually runs 4:09 then the 4:01 versions in the db should be qualified as the cassingle version and not as neither......it's funny how the 7" edit is on the cassingle and NOT on the 7"!!!!...also...my cassingle DOESN'T have the rap at the 2:35 mark...

Edited by edtop40 on 20 May 2011 at 4:06pm

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Posted: 29 June 2011 at 3:19pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
Ed, I just obtained both dj cd singles and I can report that the 2nd track of dj cd single 18130 matches the vinyl 45 (which runs (4:10)) perfectly. I also just ordered a copy of the cassette single so I will have all pieces of the puzzle in hand shortly. By the way I do not hear any rap at the 2:35 mark on the dj cd single or vinyl 45.
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Posted: 29 June 2011 at 7:19pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Pat, yes, that's correct. There is no rap on the LP version or vinyl 45 version.
To summarize the versions and run times:

- LP Version (5:43)
- Short (aka vinyl 45 version - an edit of the LP version) (4:10)
- 7" Edit (a remix without rap at 2:35) (4:02)
- Radio Edit (a remix with rap at 2:35) (4:10)
- Extended Hype (same remix as Radio Edit but longer) (5:43)

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Posted: 30 June 2011 at 5:12pm | IP Logged Quote mainrhythm
aaronk wrote:

(S) (4:01) Hip-O B0005330 New Edition - Gold (neither the 45 nor LP version)

Do these CDs perhaps contain the 7" Edit (same remix as "Radio Edit" but missing the rap at 2:35)?


Downloaded the mp3 from Amazon. Sounds terrible. Either a bad source or too much compression. It's the 7" Edit (4:02) (no rap at 2:35) version.
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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 2:16pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
According to my sketchy research, Johnny Gill's "Rub You the Right Way" cassette single features the 7" Edit as the lead track (which Ed has already nicely documented) but also contains the "Radio Edit" on the B-side. So the latter would be the remix version running 4:10 with the rap at 2:35, correct? Can anyone with a cassette single copy confirm this?

Oh, and thank you for the "Rub You the Right Way" version summary, Aaron. My head was ready to burst from confusion until I read that post!

Edited by Todd Ireland on 07 March 2012 at 2:22pm
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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 2:24pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej
Thanks for the bump and the clarification.

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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 9:51pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
todd...i just listened to the b-side of the cassingle which
contains the radio edit of the song "rub you the right way"
and it doesn't sound the same as the 'regular' version that
i remember hearing on the radio back in the day....but it
does contain the rap from about 2:40 to 3:10 on the
cassingle....it may differ in timing because many
cassingles have pitch issues as i've documented
previously.....

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Posted: 08 March 2012 at 11:13am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Thanks, Ed. So to make it official:

Cassette single copies run 4:01 and is the 7" Edit, while the flip side runs 4:10 and is the "Radio Edit". (Both versions received radio airplay.)

Edited by Todd Ireland on 08 March 2012 at 11:15am
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Posted: 18 March 2012 at 9:10pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Just double-checking... Does the "LP version" of "Rub You the Right Way" appearing on the 18130 promo CD single actually run :10 longer than the true LP version on the Johnny Gill self-titled CD (Motown 6283)?
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Posted: 19 March 2012 at 6:10am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
CD45-18130
1. LP (printed 5:43; actual 5:41)
2. Short (printed 4:09; actual 4:11)

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Posted: 06 December 2016 at 10:34pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I came across a listing for a second issued cassette single (MOTC-1982) that
has the same versions as the vinyl 45 (not remixed). Apparently there are
two official single versions for this one.

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aaronk wrote:
Pat, yes, that's correct. There is no rap on the LP version or
vinyl 45 version.
To summarize the versions and run times:

- LP Version (5:43)
- Short (aka vinyl 45 version - an edit of the LP version) (4:10)
- 7" Edit (a remix without rap at 2:35) (4:02)
- Radio Edit (a remix with rap at 2:35) (4:10)
- Extended Hype (same remix as Radio Edit but longer) (5:43)


The radio station here played the LP Version. I preferred it over the other
versions. I didn't know an edited version of the LP was available on CD.
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