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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 4:03pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Track listings posted on Amazon (with a Feb. 16th, 2010 release date):

Hard To Find 45s On CD, Volume 11 (Sugar Pop Classics)

1. My Baby Loves Lovin' - White Plains
2. Nice to Be with You - Gallery (rare)
3. Early in the Morning - Vanity Fare
4. Will You Be Staying After Sunday - The Peppermint Rainbow
5. Indian Lake - The Cowsills
6. Rhapsody in the Rain - Lou Christie (mono / uncensored version)
7. Shame, Shame - Magic Lanterns
8. Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep - Mac & Katie Kissoon
9. How Do You Do? - Mouth & MacNeal
10. Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Jes' Love It) - Daddy Dewdrop (rare)
11. Montego Bay - Bobby Bloom (single version debut)
12. Girl Watcher - The O'Kaysions (mono)
13. 1900 Yesterday - Liz Damon's Orient Express (rare)
14. Sad Sweet Dreamer - Sweet Sensation (rare)
15. Stay Awhile - The Bells
16. Mr. Dieingly Sad - The Critters
17. Look What They've Done to My Song, Ma - The New Seekers (rare)
18. Sugar Baby Love - The Rubettes (rare)
19. Baby Take Me in Your Arms - Jefferson (rare)

Hard To Find 45s On CD, Volume 12 (60s & 70s Pop Classics)

1. Game of Love - Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders (stereo debut)
2. The Nitty Gritty - Shirley Ellis
3. Keep the Ball Rollin' - Jay & The Techniques
4. Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie - Jay & The Techniques
5. Call Me - Chris Montez (stereo debut single version)
6. Come Saturday Morning - The Sandpipers
7. I Like Dreamin' - Kenny Nolan
8. Born a Woman - Sandy Posey (stereo debut single version)
9. Long Lonesome Highway - Michael Parks (rare)
10. Garden Party - Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band
11. I've Found Someone of My Own - The Free Movement (rare)
12. Black Pearl - Sonny Charles & The Checkmates, Ltd. (rare stereo version)
13. Eres Tu (Touch the Wind) - Mocedades (rare)
14. Do You Wanna Make Love - Peter McCann
15. Baby It's You - Smith (rare single version)
16. One Tin Soldier (The Legend of Billy Jack) - Coven (original soundtrack version)
17. Dancing in the Moonlight - King Harvest (best stereo version)
18. Toast and Marmalade for Tea - Tin Tin (mono / rare)
19. I Just Want to Be Your Everything - Andy Gibb

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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 4:26pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500


A few questions after reading titles.

Single mix of Early In The morning?

Is Montego Bay mono?

Single version of Come Saturday Morning?
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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 4:52pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

I know Bill Buster prefers stereo over mono when all the elements are available. My guess is all tracks are stereo unless mono is indicated (like the Lou Christie track). Bill also goes with the single 45 version whenever possible.

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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 5:16pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500

I have several CDs in the series but I have also sold several because they do not in fact have the 45 version. for instance:

Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Jes' Love It) - Daddy Dewdrop (rare)

That really isn't "rare" unless it's a mono version. Anyway, I'll probably get them.
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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 5:58pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Are there run times available? I'd be interested in the length of The Free Movement, Sweet Sensation, Mouth and MacNeal and Mac and Katie Kissoon.
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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 8:01pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

From what I've heard of a "stereo sample" for Game Of Love, i certainly hope this cd version contains a much better mixed version of the song....not that the sample was mixed bad, but it definitely did not sound like anything near the single to me, and i'm fairly critical about new stereo mixes coming out today because of how they often do not sound like period stereo mixes from the 60s so they dont fit in when thrown on a cd of other 60s stereo mixes....aside from that, both cds do look like winners to me.

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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 9:30pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Has there ever been a stereo version of Magic Lantern's "Shame, Shame" that wasn't compressed to the point of blown eardrums? It sounds that way on both the original Atlantic Shame, Shame LP and the similarly-titled Collectables CD. The dedicated mono Atlantic single has its share of compression, but to nowhere near the extent of the stereo mix.

Indy, FWIW, my "Montego Bay" L&R 45 is stereo.
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Posted: 10 January 2010 at 9:41pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500

Montego Bay is a stereo 45, wow. 1970, I was just guessing mono. Wonder if the promo is mono.
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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 6:43am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Indy500 wrote:
Montego Bay is a stereo 45, wow. 1970, I was just guessing mono. Wonder if the promo is mono.


I don't remember if the promo was mono/stereo, but the commercial single was mono. Original label was MGM-distributed...they were inconsistent about stereo promos. I do have the song on an Eric reissue 45 in stereo, and it seems to be the single length (ie-fade ending instead of cold ending like on the LP). Never compared them closely enough to see if there are mix differences.
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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 7:46am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

My original 45 of "Montego Bay" is narrower stereo than the album version.

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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 9:24am | IP Logged Quote Roscoe

My "Montego Bay" commercial 45 is stereo as well; doesn't appear to be a reissue. Maybe there were both mono and stereo pressings?

In any event, getting this unique 45 version on CD is long, long overdue. I'll definitely be getting this CD.

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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 10:57am | IP Logged Quote Indy500

There are several Montego Bay promos up for bid on ebay from several countries and they are all Montego Bay/Try A Little Harder.

But I applaud Eric for using the single version and will also buy the CD.

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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 11:57am | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Hykker wrote:
Never compared them closely enough to see if there are mix differences.


Keep in mind that the last part of the 45's fade is nowhere to be found on the stereo LP mix, so it isn't a case of an early fadeout.

Like Andy's copy, my 45 has a narrower stereo mix than the LP version; so much so that it was a number of years before I ever realized it actually was in stereo. I tried years ago to tack the 45's fade onto the ending of the LP version from CD, but the mix differences made the edit point much too obvious.

I believe there were both stereo and mono commercial 45s available, although the stereo copies bore no "stereo" designation on the label. My stereo L&R/MGM 45 is styrene. We had a stock vinyl copy at my college station which I recall being mono.
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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 12:48pm | IP Logged Quote bwolfe

I'm glad you cleared the air on this one. My L&R/MGM copy is mono. The mix is much bolder than the stereo versions that have appeared on CD collections. It'll be great to hear a better mix of Sandy Posey. The only other disc that I've heard from her was on Collectibles and the quality wasn't good. Plus it was an early fade.
Thanks to the folks at Eric for taking care of us diehard's that are still buying discs.

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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Indy500 wrote:
I have several CDs in the series but I have also sold several because they do not in fact have the 45 version. for instance:

Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Jes' Love It) - Daddy Dewdrop (rare)

That really isn't "rare" unless it's a mono version. Anyway, I'll probably get them.

I hope the Andy Gibb track is the 45 version/length. As far as times listed for each track I believe we will never see that up on Amazon or even the Eric Records site.

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My 45 of Montego Bay is mono. Can someone with a stereo pressing post the trail-out info please? I am not holding out hope to get the stereo single version on cd but it would be nice to get it in mono off a tape source and even better if it was stereo...

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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 5:29pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

TomDiehl1 wrote:
My 45 of Montego Bay is mono. Can someone with a stereo pressing post the trail-out info please?


Here's a label scan of my stereo styrene Monarch pressing. The trail-out grooves are rather narrowly-spaced for a 45.

Deadwax info: LR-157   LR-1080 , Monarch Records logo (MR in a circle), delta number 81282. There is also what appears to be tiny "1" with a not-very-well-drawn circle around it.

The B-side, "Try A Little Harder," is also in stereo, with much wider stereo separation than the A-side.
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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 5:35pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Yah Shure wrote:


Like Andy's copy, my 45 has a narrower stereo mix than the LP version; so much so that it was a number of years before I ever realized it actually was in stereo.


Just for grins, I dug out my (styrene) copy and lo and behold! it was in (quite narrow) stereo! It's been years since I played it, and apparently never listened to it with headphones (except when playing it on the air as a current, and that was on an AM).

1970 was a year with a lot of songs issued in very narrow stereo. "Games" by Redeye was another, as well as (at least the 2:54 promo edit) Mungo Jerry's "In The Summertime". I'm guessing at least part of the reason was better mono compatibility.



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Hykker wrote:
It's been years since I played it, and apparently never listened to it with headphones (except when playing it on the air as a current, and that was on an AM).


Steve, I think part of the reason I'd assumed that my copy was mono was because the groove pattern didn't look like it was a stereo record, or at least not on the A-side. Maybe at the time, I'd gotten tired of having a perpetually-bent neck under the weight of those awful two-ton, liquid-filled earpad Koss headphones I had forty years ago. They made the mono World War II surplus headphones at the college station seem downright comfortable by comparison. :)
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Posted: 11 January 2010 at 7:57pm | IP Logged Quote Gary Mack

My white label promo copy is also stereo. But unlike Yah Shure's, the top right of the label says Disc Jockey Record NOT FOR SALE. Music is credited to Unart Music Corp-Cheezeburger Music, Inc. (BMI). There is no MGM Records below the lion logo. Trail wax is identical.

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